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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:09 AM
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3. Of course that's what it means. An "effective militia" is necessary, because the recourse is a
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:50 AM by jmg257
standing army. That was the whole reason for giving Congress the power to provide guidelines (A1,S8,C16) for how the people will arm themselves for duty in the Militias of the several States, for how those militias would be organized, and how they will be trained/disciplined - standards help effectivness; and with the 2nd there is a mandatory order of it getting done (well functioning militias are "necessary").

The states had been neglecting their militias under the Articles, and since the role of the militias was VITAL to the constitution and our freedoms (A1,S8,C15) - they MUST BE effective. As Hamilton pointed out BEFORE the 2nd was written/ratified - "Well regulated" is "well armed and well trained". Otherwise there would be a greater need for a large standing army - that bane of liberty.

These days, even with the usurption that is the National Guard, we the people must still be sufficiently armed, and familiar with our arms (CMP, etc.) because we are still part of the Militia (of the United States). Of course separate from our militia role we also have the unalienable right to self-defense - and so are allowed the means to enjoy that right.
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  -The pesky meaning of "Well Regulated" Elmer1007  Feb-21-08 08:49 AM   #0 
  - I missed the last Official State Militia Training date...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 08:53 AM   #1 
  - You're already in the militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:46 AM   #5 
     - deleted  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:48 AM   #6 
     - So, if I'm in the militia...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 10:46 AM   #10 
     - Nope. It's your responsibility to know the law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:10 AM   #11 
        - LOL!  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 11:12 AM   #12 
           - Laugh if you want, the law is the law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:15 AM   #13 
              - Maybe you should turn me in...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 11:16 AM   #14 
                 - Dude, it doesn't say you have to own a gun. Just that you're in the militia by law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:32 AM   #15 
                    - Dude, if I don't own a gun, what good am I in this militia?  Hobarticus   Feb-22-08 12:12 AM   #24 
                       - Exactly.  johnbraun   Feb-22-08 12:29 AM   #25 
     - Crimminy. If you could read you would be dangerous. It says no such thing.  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:56 PM   #20 
  - Although - one could say that part of being a "well regulated" and military  bluerum   Feb-21-08 09:01 AM   #2 
  - Hamilton was in favor of a "select militia", instead of one where everyone was mandated  jmg257   Feb-21-08 09:16 AM   #4 
  - And this will be the next anti argument, mark my words.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:57 AM   #8 
     - The wording is clear - that there shall BE a well regulated militia to protect  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:52 PM   #19 
        - That is from the Federalist Papers (#29) - not the Constitution or the 2nd amendment,  jmg257   Feb-21-08 08:52 PM   #23 
  - Of course that's what it means. An "effective militia" is necessary, because the recourse is a  jmg257   Feb-21-08 09:09 AM   #3 
  - USC 10.311 places all males 17-45 not in the armed forces in a militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:49 AM   #7 
  - Yes, Well regulated, as in well functioning  Indy Lurker   Feb-21-08 10:44 AM   #9 
  - Maybe I'm confused...  Plague   Feb-21-08 02:04 PM   #16 
     - It does seem clear to me as well.  Indy Lurker   Feb-21-08 02:28 PM   #17 
        - As I said, USC 10.311 "regulates" the unorganized militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 02:32 PM   #18 
           - Righto then. I am in the militia.  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:56 PM   #21 
  - Well regulated, er stated  WWFZD   Feb-21-08 06:27 PM   #22 
  - Congress must "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia". It's derelict in that  jody   Feb-22-08 12:53 PM   #26 
 

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