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L1A1Rocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:58 PM
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79. Why don't
you go ask the Israelis? Or better yet look around America and see the problem. Schools have become defenseless killing fields. The gun free zones have been a total failure to keep our children safe. Time for a new plan.
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  -Will concealed-carry in public places become a cause on campus? SteveM  Feb-17-08 12:58 PM   #0 
  - Because we have so much to "show" for the proliferation of guns...  villager   Feb-17-08 01:00 PM   #1 
  - yeah let a bunch of drunk, partying undergraduates  DBoon   Feb-17-08 01:16 PM   #7 
  - Right!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:20 PM   #10 
  - No let  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 02:55 PM   #76 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-17-08 09:08 PM   #137 
  - Once again...  krispos42   Feb-17-08 01:50 PM   #28 
  - Did you point to the stands before you hit that one out? Thanks.  SteveM   Feb-17-08 01:59 PM   #41 
  - LOL!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:07 PM   #47 
  - Two things:  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:14 PM   #50 
  - "why" is not relevent  krispos42   Feb-17-08 02:36 PM   #66 
  - Of course "why" is relevant.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:55 PM   #77 
     - The kind  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:00 PM   #81 
     - Okay, so you're saying I should carry a gun to class  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 03:06 PM   #87 
        - I can think of the most commonly provided reason...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 03:16 PM   #96 
        - You should have the right to.  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:19 PM   #100 
        - I'm saying that you have that possibility now  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 04:45 PM   #125 
     - Okay, I'll add some fantasy to get you to answer the question  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:02 PM   #82 
        - This is getting goofier by the minute.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 03:05 PM   #85 
           - Your refusal to answer the question is making my point very well  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:15 PM   #94 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-17-08 03:19 PM   #98 
                 - Then don't seek out discussion if you don't want your views challenged.  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:24 PM   #102 
                 - Ha ha ha ha  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 04:50 PM   #127 
                 - Oh what a rapier like response to a debate  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 04:48 PM   #126 
                 - I agree with krispos, answer the question.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 05:06 PM   #131 
  - Why don't  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 02:58 PM   #79 
  - Oops  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 02:56 PM   #78 
     - I tried hard to get him to answer  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:28 PM   #104 
        - Krispos...  beevul   Feb-17-08 04:51 PM   #128 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-17-08 04:54 PM   #129 
           - Awww....  krispos42   Feb-17-08 06:44 PM   #133 
              - Bummer  L1A1Rocker   Feb-18-08 01:55 AM   #141 
  - Gun free  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 02:53 PM   #74 
  - No wait ! Lets have everybody carry in public.  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Feb-17-08 01:05 PM   #2 
  - Utah and Colorado haven't had any problems with student CCW.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:24 PM   #12 
  - I believe that you have set up a "straw man".  Dimensio0   Feb-17-08 02:36 PM   #65 
  - I hope so.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:08 PM   #3 
  - Why do these idiots want more school shootings?  greenvpi   Feb-17-08 01:09 PM   #4 
  - So what is your solution?  krispos42   Feb-17-08 01:58 PM   #40 
  - "Alabama senator seeks to arm some college students, professors" (2/15/2008)  jody   Feb-17-08 01:14 PM   #5 
  - Another wingnut idiot heard from.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:26 PM   #14 
     - Obvious unarmed professors have not worked so why not authorize those who are qualified RKBA? nt  jody   Feb-17-08 01:41 PM   #23 
     - That is such a stupid question I hardly know how to address it.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:49 PM   #27 
        - No, they're not  krispos42   Feb-17-08 01:53 PM   #31 
        - How about we prevent these incidents  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:55 PM   #35 
           - We do and we are  krispos42   Feb-17-08 02:02 PM   #42 
           - What are your proposals, keeping in mind due process?  SteveM   Feb-17-08 02:03 PM   #43 
           - We already  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:06 PM   #88 
        - Of course professors shouldn't be security guards.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:54 PM   #34 
        - Perhaps the question is not stupid but stupid people may try to answer it. Who said anything about  jody   Feb-17-08 01:57 PM   #37 
        - The issue is maintaining a civil society  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:03 PM   #44 
           - Regardless of your opinion, self-defense is a personal responsibility in a society with some people  jody   Feb-17-08 02:12 PM   #49 
           - Hmm.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:22 PM   #54 
              - From what I have read...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:51 PM   #73 
              - Sorry  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:11 PM   #91 
              - Please provide a credible source for your assertion LEOs oppose CCW. Perhaps the best way to have a  jody   Feb-17-08 04:36 PM   #124 
                 - He's going to go find a police chief's statement, not one given by a rank and file.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 05:00 PM   #130 
           - But we are civil!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:16 PM   #51 
           - Actually I was just reading that we don't know that.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:29 PM   #58 
           - Untrue.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:35 PM   #64 
           - Could you post the actual data and not a link to a thread?  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:54 PM   #75 
              - Sure!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 03:05 PM   #86 
                 - Thanks.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 03:17 PM   #97 
                    - Most of the requirements are for buying guns in general  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:45 PM   #111 
                    - Slight Correction  ac2007   Feb-18-08 01:35 PM   #147 
                       - Okay, thanks  krispos42   Feb-18-08 02:31 PM   #148 
                          - Both terms are accurate  ac2007   Feb-18-08 03:11 PM   #149 
                    - Here are some reasons why...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 03:47 PM   #112 
           - From your article...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:47 PM   #72 
           - I believe  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:13 PM   #92 
           - I agree with you  krispos42   Feb-17-08 02:30 PM   #59 
           - Wow  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:16 PM   #95 
              - Because in the most problematic states, it's still restrictive  krispos42   Feb-17-08 07:09 PM   #134 
                 - Cool  L1A1Rocker   Feb-18-08 01:59 AM   #142 
           - Part of a civil society is survival...  SteveM   Feb-17-08 02:33 PM   #62 
           - No one has proposed requiring individuals to arm themselves.  Dimensio0   Feb-17-08 02:39 PM   #67 
           - What makes  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:09 PM   #89 
        - So don't be!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:12 PM   #48 
        - Sure they are.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:41 PM   #69 
           - You seem  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:19 PM   #99 
           - What purpose do they serve?  gorfle   Feb-17-08 03:57 PM   #118 
        - But why  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:05 PM   #84 
     - Allowing  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:04 PM   #83 
  - oh yeah?  DBoon   Feb-17-08 01:14 PM   #6 
  - But they are completely ineffective!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:25 PM   #13 
  - gun prohibitionists  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:29 PM   #105 
  - Yeah. I don't hold gun control laws to 100% effectiveness. Not the point...  SteveM   Feb-17-08 02:26 PM   #55 
  - Heh,  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:33 PM   #63 
     - Tony Curtis in OPERATION PETTICOAT: In confusion there is profit!  SteveM   Feb-17-08 07:11 PM   #135 
  - Oh really?  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:22 PM   #101 
  - The "gun free zone" is to stop violence.  krispos42   Feb-17-08 10:09 PM   #138 
  - I agree 100%  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:17 PM   #8 
  - Reason 4,857,532: because I don't want the student sitting in my office  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:20 PM   #11 
     - I wouldn't worry about it.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:26 PM   #16 
     - Sure, why not?  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:28 PM   #17 
     - Sorry, I still find the prospect profoundly creepy.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:37 PM   #21 
        - "Creepy" just means that you personally don't like it.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:46 PM   #24 
        - "We liberals?"  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:51 PM   #30 
           - "We liberals" indeed.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:55 PM   #36 
           - This is what is called...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:06 PM   #45 
           - I agree 100%  sabre73   Feb-18-08 03:31 AM   #145 
           - The current proposal relates to individuals who are allowed to carry firearms...  Dimensio0   Feb-17-08 02:42 PM   #70 
           - Why do you assume  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:39 PM   #108 
        - I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:50 PM   #29 
        - Oy.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:53 PM   #32 
           - That seems unreasonable.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:57 PM   #38 
              - Now you're catching on.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:06 PM   #46 
                 - You already pass them in the street and grocery store.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 02:17 PM   #52 
                 - Stop it.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:27 PM   #56 
                    - I'm simply saying we should embrace tolerance....  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 02:32 PM   #61 
                    - I believe  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:48 PM   # 
                 - Yes.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:22 PM   #53 
                 - We'd have a serious problem, then.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 02:31 PM   #60 
                    - Why do you have a serious problem obaying the law?  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:50 PM   #114 
                 - You'd have to base your dealings with them on what they say or do  krispos42   Feb-17-08 03:09 PM   #90 
                 - Yes you are  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:43 PM   #110 
        - Sorry  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:37 PM   #107 
     - I have been in that office -- I wouldn't KNOW if he/she was armed!  SteveM   Feb-17-08 02:40 PM   #68 
     - LOL  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:51 PM   #116 
     - Are you saying  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:35 PM   #106 
     - I'm curious about your thinking  Indy Lurker   Feb-17-08 05:08 PM   #132 
     - If that student means you harm do you really think school policy or a sign on the door is going  pipoman   Feb-17-08 10:47 PM   #139 
     - I've looked at the Wikipedia list of college shootings a couple of nights ago  krispos42   Feb-18-08 10:11 AM   #146 
  - I teach at a state U about five hours from Dekalb.  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:17 PM   #9 
  - The CDC studied all methods of gun control you cite.  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:29 PM   #18 
  - I agree re "screen all gun-buyers for evidence of mental illness" and offenders should not be  jody   Feb-17-08 01:38 PM   #22 
  - Two things:  smoogatz   Feb-17-08 01:48 PM   #26 
     - No, I'm not paranoid, are you? Current law requires a judge. Have you ever read federal law re  jody   Feb-17-08 01:54 PM   #33 
     - NICS already does this.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:57 PM   #39 
     - You seem  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:57 PM   #119 
  - Points...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 01:47 PM   #25 
  - I do not believe that your concerns are justified.  Dimensio0   Feb-17-08 02:46 PM   #71 
  - I think you have it turned backwards...  SteveM   Feb-17-08 02:59 PM   #80 
  - most of these guys dont kill on a whim  bossy22   Feb-17-08 03:51 PM   #115 
  - How would you feel  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 03:55 PM   #117 
  - I hope they do.  chunkstyle5   Feb-17-08 01:26 PM   #15 
  - Exactly!  johnbraun   Feb-17-08 01:30 PM   #19 
  - Indeed!  east texas lib   Feb-17-08 03:26 PM   #103 
  - You know  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 04:04 PM   #120 
     - The allure of gun bans is like a siren's song to progressives...  SteveM   Feb-17-08 07:35 PM   #136 
        - I was not awar of  L1A1Rocker   Feb-18-08 02:04 AM   #143 
  - Either we force all cases of mental trouble to be included in a list of who's not eligible to buy  heidler1   Feb-17-08 01:34 PM   #20 
  - Excellent summary!  gorfle   Feb-17-08 02:28 PM   #57 
  - Could you  L1A1Rocker   Feb-17-08 04:06 PM   #121 
     - It would never sell to suggest we eliminate those with bad judgment from voting, because  heidler1   Feb-18-08 01:27 AM   #140 
        - Cannot denie  L1A1Rocker   Feb-18-08 02:07 AM   #144 
  - Evidently the present status quo is unsatisfactory...  east texas lib   Feb-17-08 03:13 PM   #93 
  - a middle ground  bossy22   Feb-17-08 03:40 PM   #109 
  - Agreed.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 04:06 PM   #122 
     - the law of unintended consequences  bossy22   Feb-17-08 04:17 PM   #123 
  - driver's license  bossy22   Feb-17-08 03:48 PM   #113 
 

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