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| 85. Uh-oh, looks like those guns might not have been purchased legally after all |
| -Shooter used legitimately purchased guns to kill students |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 04:34 PM |
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Gee; no replies. Quelle surprise. nt |
zanne |
Feb-15-08 04:36 PM |
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There's not much to say. |
gorfle |
Feb-15-08 10:20 PM |
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Third option and the only one that will make a difference...... |
Boomer 50 |
Feb-15-08 10:40 PM |
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In other words, to hell with the rest of us, huh? |
zanne |
Feb-16-08 07:42 AM |
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I did not say that. |
gorfle |
Feb-16-08 08:36 PM |
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I support everybodys wish |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-18-08 02:37 PM |
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Not at all. |
NewMoonTherian |
Mar-02-08 02:13 PM |
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Thank you for allowing a full two minutes for a coherent, detailed response, |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 02:27 AM |
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LOL, an ANTI |
Tejas |
Feb-16-08 06:37 AM |
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What is the problem then? |
ac2007 |
Feb-15-08 04:45 PM |
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The shooter was also taking psych meds.... |
ingac70 |
Feb-15-08 04:57 PM |
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Why not? |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:06 PM |
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That particular "form" of medication... |
ingac70 |
Feb-15-08 06:10 PM |
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Ignorance is not a good position from which to argue |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:17 PM |
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The shooter was irresponsible... |
ingac70 |
Feb-15-08 06:24 PM |
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Yes, this is true |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:30 PM |
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Feb-16-08 07:48 AM |
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Gun owners believe guns should always be the exception. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:33 AM |
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"Bazillions?" |
Nabeshin |
Feb-16-08 06:49 PM |
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Oh. So the gun industry is in it to do a public service. So tender aren't they? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-17-08 10:27 AM |
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As was said... |
gorfle |
Feb-17-08 04:19 PM |
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Gun manufacturers are the reason the gun lobby is powerful. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 11:12 AM |
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If you really wish to educate yourself... |
EricTeri |
Feb-18-08 11:18 AM |
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Well then allow anyone to buy uranium. Why not? Don't remove our rights, eh? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 06:42 PM |
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Not even remotely the same thing |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:55 PM |
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You already can. |
ac2007 |
Feb-15-08 06:56 PM |
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Cool! |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:59 PM |
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Wow. I had no idea! Our country really is fucked up by people wanting to sell killing methods nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 07:30 PM |
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Killing methods? |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 07:35 PM |
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It saddens me that you beat me to this (n/t) |
Plague |
Feb-15-08 09:43 PM |
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Yes, this monster obtained weapons for murder, all perfectly legal nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 06:41 PM |
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Yep - he sure did. |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 07:00 PM |
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Are you angry that he didn't buy them from a gun show? |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 02:35 AM |
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You don't fail to see the point. |
zanne |
Feb-16-08 07:45 AM |
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Gun conrol laws do work |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 12:04 PM |
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I know I fail to see the point. |
gorfle |
Feb-17-08 04:24 PM |
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So basically it's the fault of all those victims that they were remiss in not arming themselves? |
CTyankee |
Mar-01-08 12:23 PM |
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Illinois also has waiting periods on purchasing firearms... |
Lex1775 |
Feb-15-08 05:08 PM |
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Did you have a point with this thread? |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 05:39 PM |
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Excellent point n/t |
Tejas |
Feb-16-08 06:40 AM |
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How about forcing doctors to turn them in? |
DonP |
Feb-15-08 06:09 PM |
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How about this... |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:20 PM |
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Penalties don't matter to the mentally ill. n/t. |
ingac70 |
Feb-15-08 06:25 PM |
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No they dont |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:33 PM |
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I disagree... |
gorfle |
Feb-15-08 10:24 PM |
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In this instance... |
ingac70 |
Feb-15-08 11:04 PM |
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How many veterans would fall into this catagory? n/t |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 02:20 AM |
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You mean veterans like this?. |
ingac70 |
Feb-16-08 08:28 PM |
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Those. |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 11:52 PM |
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I have a problem with people calling the mentally ill or anyone |
SCRUBDASHRUB |
Feb-16-08 07:25 PM |
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OK.. |
gorfle |
Feb-16-08 08:41 PM |
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And here is the proof... |
gorfle |
Feb-16-08 09:03 PM |
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What kind of due process would you propose for "crazy people?" Any? |
SteveM |
Feb-17-08 12:05 PM |
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Are you saying... |
beevul |
Feb-15-08 06:32 PM |
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Guns have only one purpose. This man bought a gun (for that purpose), and children are now dead nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 06:47 PM |
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Even if your assertion were correct... |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 06:57 PM |
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No, not "even if." My assertion *IS* correct. Guns have only one purpose, to murder |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 07:27 PM |
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and if frogs had wings... |
EricTeri |
Feb-15-08 07:34 PM |
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no cops, don't carry guns so they can commit murder |
provis99 |
Feb-15-08 07:47 PM |
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You're right. It's a matter of semantics. Under the law, cops are allowed to kill using guns |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-15-08 07:52 PM |
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Citizens are allowed to kill using guns, too. |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 02:23 AM |
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Wow! That's simply amazing given that gun murders are higher today than in the 70s |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:24 AM |
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Gun murders are not higher today than in the 70's. |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 10:41 AM |
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Do you mind if I research that myself rather than take your word for it? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:51 AM |
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Not at all.. |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 11:03 AM |
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I think I'm going to research that and much more. I'll get back with you. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 11:12 AM |
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Police never try to KILL with a gun |
Indy Lurker |
Feb-16-08 07:09 AM |
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I agree with my cop friends. Only cops should have guns. Guns are a danger that gets in the way of |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:27 AM |
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Yes, guns do get in the way of Cops raiding the wrong |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-16-08 10:45 AM |
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Oh a cop hater? As for handling a murder implement, I didn't say you weren't capable of handling |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:53 AM |
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Wasn't that a cop in Wisconsin last year that killed |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-16-08 11:07 AM |
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Feb-16-08 11:14 AM |
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check this out |
bossy22 |
Feb-16-08 12:45 PM |
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I don't know how many "cops" you count as friends, |
HiDemGunOwner |
Feb-19-08 05:04 PM |
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That's true... |
HiDemGunOwner |
Feb-19-08 04:59 PM |
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Bombs? |
Plague |
Feb-15-08 09:51 PM |
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He could've! However a bomb is not as easy..... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:29 AM |
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Are you going to go door to door and pick them up? |
pipoman |
Feb-16-08 11:23 AM |
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Feb-17-08 10:30 AM |
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I disagree on your assessment of difficulty. |
Plague |
Feb-16-08 03:51 PM |
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I've been misusing my firearms then. |
gorfle |
Feb-15-08 10:22 PM |
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Well, think of it this way, if someone is a collector of nuclear bombs...... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:34 AM |
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Oh yes, the nuclear bomb argument. |
gorfle |
Feb-17-08 12:22 PM |
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Feb-18-08 01:15 PM |
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Well, you can live in fear... |
east texas lib |
Feb-16-08 01:35 AM |
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And home invasions would go up. |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 02:26 AM |
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Where do you gun lovers get the concept that if guns are banned, illegal guns will remain undetected |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:47 AM |
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We can't stop billions of dollars of drugs flowing into this country! |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 11:32 AM |
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Sure we could. We don't. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-17-08 10:37 AM |
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So then we need a police state? |
krispos42 |
Feb-17-08 01:29 PM |
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Why do you believe I'd resort to searches? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-17-08 08:26 PM |
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Fair enough. |
krispos42 |
Feb-17-08 10:50 PM |
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Anyone who doesn't want to end up in prison? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 10:30 AM |
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And who fears going to prison? |
krispos42 |
Feb-18-08 11:17 AM |
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Anyone in their right mind should fear going to prison. Look, I'm not trying to be unreasonable.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 12:22 PM |
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And since criminals don't fear prison (are not in their right mind)... |
krispos42 |
Feb-18-08 01:56 PM |
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A gun criminal is a gun owner who committed a crime, or, |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 06:22 PM |
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But not less and less crime |
krispos42 |
Feb-19-08 02:10 AM |
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i dont see how we are |
bossy22 |
Feb-18-08 02:19 PM |
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We are not a safe country. In my little block alone there have been thefts, shootings and there are |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 06:27 PM |
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wow |
bossy22 |
Feb-18-08 08:43 PM |
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Oh? I lived in Spain and Israel for years. Israel is always in a state of war, so I did |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 09:48 PM |
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god i dont know what neighborhood you live in |
bossy22 |
Feb-18-08 10:12 PM |
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Some questions for you... |
gorfle |
Feb-19-08 07:36 AM |
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They would be smuggled in disguised as routine cocaine shipments. (n/t) |
benEzra |
Feb-16-08 01:00 PM |
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You owe me a new keyboard! |
ManiacJoe |
Feb-17-08 12:05 AM |
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Because of people like you that are obsessed with the idea of being able to kill easy and fast? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-17-08 10:36 AM |
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That misperception is the root of a lot of the disconnect in this thread, methinks. |
benEzra |
Feb-17-08 09:04 PM |
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You're mistaken. I don't have this "cartoon" in my head "of some bloodthirsty Rambo" |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 07:33 PM |
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most legal gun owners do not commit gun crimes |
bossy22 |
Feb-18-08 08:46 PM |
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You're trying to separate the gun owners from the criminals. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-18-08 10:03 PM |
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Feb-18-08 10:13 PM |
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truthfully |
bossy22 |
Feb-18-08 10:26 PM |
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im reposting this |
bossy22 |
Feb-19-08 03:53 PM |
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Simple answer? |
EricTeri |
Feb-19-08 04:31 PM |
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Sarah. Marijuana. |
SteveM |
Feb-17-08 12:21 PM |
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Sarah...don't get out much much, |
Tejas |
Feb-18-08 05:55 AM |
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And, "IF" there were an armed citizen, s/he could have kept the |
HiDemGunOwner |
Feb-19-08 04:52 PM |
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To their parents and families, 19 and 20 year olds are children. |
mycritters2 |
Feb-15-08 08:33 PM |
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60 million people own 200 million firearms in the U.S, |
spin |
Feb-16-08 01:17 AM |
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Oh, it's more than that. |
krispos42 |
Feb-16-08 02:30 AM |
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Bunny rabbits and guns |
spin |
Feb-16-08 11:45 AM |
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BEER has only one purpose |
Tejas |
Feb-16-08 06:42 AM |
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The same day as the U of I shooting, 273 people were killed by alcohol... |
benEzra |
Feb-16-08 09:57 AM |
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Feb-16-08 10:51 AM |
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Thank you for |
Tejas |
Feb-18-08 05:48 AM |
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That .729 caliber rapid fire pump-action shotgun... |
benEzra |
Feb-16-08 09:51 AM |
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You really need to speak the truth, Sarah... |
SteveM |
Feb-17-08 12:13 PM |
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Driver used legitimately purchased vehicle to kill |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-16-08 08:41 AM |
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If we'd only outlaw alloy wheels, rear spoilers, and clearcoat paint... |
benEzra |
Feb-16-08 10:04 AM |
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Cars aren't used expressly to murder. Guns are, however. Your assertion is pointless. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:48 AM |
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Do you regard killing in self-defense as murder? |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-08 11:07 AM |
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I regard the entire gun industry and gun-love as creating a nation of murders from which |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 11:10 AM |
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Yet your very safety is protected by |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-08 11:13 AM |
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Feb-16-08 11:15 AM |
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Good luck with that, same thing that someone else |
Tejas |
Feb-18-08 06:00 AM |
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That was sarcasm... |
benEzra |
Feb-16-08 12:57 PM |
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The only place a gun will drive you is to the morgue. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 10:40 AM |
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The only place a gun will transport you is to the morgue |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-16-08 10:58 AM |
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Another argument meant to protect your killing implements..... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Feb-16-08 11:19 AM |
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You know what truly scares me? |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-16-08 11:40 AM |
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I wouldn't mind people talking on cell phones while driving if they'd keep their hands on the wheel |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-08 11:43 AM |
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Feb-17-08 10:22 AM |
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Feb-17-08 04:12 PM |
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Uh-oh, looks like those guns might not have been purchased legally after all |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-08 11:51 AM |
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if thats true |
bossy22 |
Feb-16-08 01:09 PM |
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They were SOLD legally, just not PURCHASED legally. |
MercutioATC |
Feb-18-08 02:00 PM |
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VERY GOOD POINT!!!! n/t |
Spoonman |
Feb-19-08 03:05 PM |
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It's illegal for those who've received inpatient psych care |
mycritters2 |
Feb-16-08 04:53 PM |
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Somebody screwed up his records, apparently... |
benEzra |
Feb-16-08 08:53 PM |
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Recieving inpatient psych car does not remove a persons rights to own firearms. |
lepus |
Feb-17-08 05:14 AM |
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You're wrong. In Illinois, those receiving inpatient care for psych disorders |
mycritters2 |
Feb-17-08 04:50 PM |
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That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. |
benEzra |
Feb-17-08 09:08 PM |
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What??? |
MAS 49_56 |
Feb-18-08 01:17 PM |
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