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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:25 PM
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12. Penalties don't matter to the mentally ill. n/t.
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  -Shooter used legitimately purchased guns to kill students Sarah Ibarruri  Feb-15-08 04:34 PM   #0 
  - Gee; no replies. Quelle surprise. nt  zanne   Feb-15-08 04:36 PM   #1 
  - There's not much to say.  gorfle   Feb-15-08 10:20 PM   #33 
  - Third option and the only one that will make a difference......  Boomer 50   Feb-15-08 10:40 PM   #36 
  - In other words, to hell with the rest of us, huh?  zanne   Feb-16-08 07:42 AM   #50 
     - I did not say that.  gorfle   Feb-16-08 08:36 PM   #96 
     - I support everybodys wish  Retired AF Dem   Feb-18-08 02:37 PM   #134 
     - Not at all.  NewMoonTherian   Mar-02-08 02:13 PM   #154 
  - Thank you for allowing a full two minutes for a coherent, detailed response,  krispos42   Feb-16-08 02:27 AM   #43 
     - LOL, an ANTI  Tejas   Feb-16-08 06:37 AM   #46 
  - What is the problem then?  ac2007   Feb-15-08 04:45 PM   #2 
  - The shooter was also taking psych meds....  ingac70   Feb-15-08 04:57 PM   #3 
  - Why not?  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:06 PM   #6 
     - That particular "form" of medication...  ingac70   Feb-15-08 06:10 PM   #8 
     - Ignorance is not a good position from which to argue  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:17 PM   #9 
     - The shooter was irresponsible...  ingac70   Feb-15-08 06:24 PM   #11 
     - Yes, this is true  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:30 PM   #13 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-16-08 07:48 AM   #52 
     - Gun owners believe guns should always be the exception.  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:33 AM   #60 
        - "Bazillions?"  Nabeshin   Feb-16-08 06:49 PM   #93 
           - Oh. So the gun industry is in it to do a public service. So tender aren't they?  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-17-08 10:27 AM   #104 
              - As was said...  gorfle   Feb-17-08 04:19 PM   #114 
                 - Gun manufacturers are the reason the gun lobby is powerful.  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 11:12 AM   #125 
                    - If you really wish to educate yourself...  EricTeri   Feb-18-08 11:18 AM   #127 
     - Well then allow anyone to buy uranium. Why not? Don't remove our rights, eh? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-15-08 06:42 PM   #17 
        - Not even remotely the same thing  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:55 PM   #19 
        - You already can.  ac2007   Feb-15-08 06:56 PM   #20 
           - Cool!  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:59 PM   #22 
           - Wow. I had no idea! Our country really is fucked up by people wanting to sell killing methods nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-15-08 07:30 PM   #25 
           - Killing methods?  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 07:35 PM   #27 
           - It saddens me that you beat me to this (n/t)  Plague   Feb-15-08 09:43 PM   #31 
  - Yes, this monster obtained weapons for murder, all perfectly legal nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-15-08 06:41 PM   #16 
  - Yep - he sure did.  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 07:00 PM   #23 
  - Are you angry that he didn't buy them from a gun show?  krispos42   Feb-16-08 02:35 AM   #45 
  - You don't fail to see the point.  zanne   Feb-16-08 07:45 AM   #51 
  - Gun conrol laws do work  krispos42   Feb-16-08 12:04 PM   #86 
  - I know I fail to see the point.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 04:24 PM   #115 
  - So basically it's the fault of all those victims that they were remiss in not arming themselves?  CTyankee   Mar-01-08 12:23 PM   #153 
  - Illinois also has waiting periods on purchasing firearms...  Lex1775   Feb-15-08 05:08 PM   #4 
  - Did you have a point with this thread?  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 05:39 PM   #5 
  - Excellent point n/t  Tejas   Feb-16-08 06:40 AM   #47 
  - How about forcing doctors to turn them in?  DonP   Feb-15-08 06:09 PM   #7 
  - How about this...  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:20 PM   #10 
     - Penalties don't matter to the mentally ill. n/t.  ingac70   Feb-15-08 06:25 PM   #12 
        - No they dont  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:33 PM   #15 
        - I disagree...  gorfle   Feb-15-08 10:24 PM   #35 
           - In this instance...  ingac70   Feb-15-08 11:04 PM   #37 
              - How many veterans would fall into this catagory? n/t  krispos42   Feb-16-08 02:20 AM   #40 
              - You mean veterans like this?.  ingac70   Feb-16-08 08:28 PM   #95 
                 - Those.  krispos42   Feb-16-08 11:52 PM   #100 
              - I have a problem with people calling the mentally ill or anyone  SCRUBDASHRUB   Feb-16-08 07:25 PM   #94 
              - OK..  gorfle   Feb-16-08 08:41 PM   #97 
              - And here is the proof...  gorfle   Feb-16-08 09:03 PM   #99 
              - What kind of due process would you propose for "crazy people?" Any?  SteveM   Feb-17-08 12:05 PM   #108 
  - Are you saying...  beevul   Feb-15-08 06:32 PM   #14 
  - Guns have only one purpose. This man bought a gun (for that purpose), and children are now dead nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-15-08 06:47 PM   #18 
     - Even if your assertion were correct...  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 06:57 PM   #21 
     - No, not "even if." My assertion *IS* correct. Guns have only one purpose, to murder  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-15-08 07:27 PM   #24 
     - and if frogs had wings...  EricTeri   Feb-15-08 07:34 PM   #26 
     - no cops, don't carry guns so they can commit murder  provis99   Feb-15-08 07:47 PM   #28 
        - You're right. It's a matter of semantics. Under the law, cops are allowed to kill using guns  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-15-08 07:52 PM   #29 
           - Citizens are allowed to kill using guns, too.  krispos42   Feb-16-08 02:23 AM   #41 
           - Wow! That's simply amazing given that gun murders are higher today than in the 70s  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:24 AM   #57 
              - Gun murders are not higher today than in the 70's.  krispos42   Feb-16-08 10:41 AM   #63 
                 - Do you mind if I research that myself rather than take your word for it? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:51 AM   #68 
                    - Not at all..  krispos42   Feb-16-08 11:03 AM   #71 
                       - I think I'm going to research that and much more. I'll get back with you. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 11:12 AM   #75 
           - Police never try to KILL with a gun  Indy Lurker   Feb-16-08 07:09 AM   #49 
           - I agree with my cop friends. Only cops should have guns. Guns are a danger that gets in the way of  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:27 AM   #58 
              - Yes, guns do get in the way of Cops raiding the wrong  Retired AF Dem   Feb-16-08 10:45 AM   #64 
              - Oh a cop hater? As for handling a murder implement, I didn't say you weren't capable of handling  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:53 AM   #69 
                 - Wasn't that a cop in Wisconsin last year that killed  Retired AF Dem   Feb-16-08 11:07 AM   #72 
                    - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-16-08 11:14 AM   #77 
              - check this out  bossy22   Feb-16-08 12:45 PM   #87 
              - I don't know how many "cops" you count as friends,  HiDemGunOwner   Feb-19-08 05:04 PM   #152 
           - That's true...  HiDemGunOwner   Feb-19-08 04:59 PM   #151 
     - Bombs?  Plague   Feb-15-08 09:51 PM   #32 
     - He could've! However a bomb is not as easy.....  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:29 AM   #59 
        - Are you going to go door to door and pick them up?  pipoman   Feb-16-08 11:23 AM   #80 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-17-08 10:30 AM   #105 
        - I disagree on your assessment of difficulty.  Plague   Feb-16-08 03:51 PM   #91 
     - I've been misusing my firearms then.  gorfle   Feb-15-08 10:22 PM   #34 
     - Well, think of it this way, if someone is a collector of nuclear bombs......  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:34 AM   #61 
        - Oh yes, the nuclear bomb argument.  gorfle   Feb-17-08 12:22 PM   #111 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-08 01:15 PM   #129 
     - Well, you can live in fear...  east texas lib   Feb-16-08 01:35 AM   #39 
     - And home invasions would go up.  krispos42   Feb-16-08 02:26 AM   #42 
     - Where do you gun lovers get the concept that if guns are banned, illegal guns will remain undetected  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:47 AM   #65 
        - We can't stop billions of dollars of drugs flowing into this country!  krispos42   Feb-16-08 11:32 AM   #81 
        - Sure we could. We don't.  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-17-08 10:37 AM   #107 
           - So then we need a police state?  krispos42   Feb-17-08 01:29 PM   #112 
              - Why do you believe I'd resort to searches?  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-17-08 08:26 PM   #117 
                 - Fair enough.  krispos42   Feb-17-08 10:50 PM   #120 
                    - Anyone who doesn't want to end up in prison? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 10:30 AM   #124 
                       - And who fears going to prison?  krispos42   Feb-18-08 11:17 AM   #126 
                          - Anyone in their right mind should fear going to prison. Look, I'm not trying to be unreasonable....  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 12:22 PM   #128 
                             - And since criminals don't fear prison (are not in their right mind)...  krispos42   Feb-18-08 01:56 PM   #131 
                             - A gun criminal is a gun owner who committed a crime, or,  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 06:22 PM   #135 
                                - But not less and less crime  krispos42   Feb-19-08 02:10 AM   #145 
                             - i dont see how we are  bossy22   Feb-18-08 02:19 PM   #133 
                             - We are not a safe country. In my little block alone there have been thefts, shootings and there are  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 06:27 PM   #136 
                                - wow  bossy22   Feb-18-08 08:43 PM   #138 
                                   - Oh? I lived in Spain and Israel for years. Israel is always in a state of war, so I did  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 09:48 PM   #140 
                                      - god i dont know what neighborhood you live in  bossy22   Feb-18-08 10:12 PM   #142 
                             - Some questions for you...  gorfle   Feb-19-08 07:36 AM   #146 
        - They would be smuggled in disguised as routine cocaine shipments. (n/t)  benEzra   Feb-16-08 01:00 PM   #89 
        - You owe me a new keyboard!  ManiacJoe   Feb-17-08 12:05 AM   #101 
        - Because of people like you that are obsessed with the idea of being able to kill easy and fast? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-17-08 10:36 AM   #106 
           - That misperception is the root of a lot of the disconnect in this thread, methinks.  benEzra   Feb-17-08 09:04 PM   #118 
              - You're mistaken. I don't have this "cartoon" in my head "of some bloodthirsty Rambo"  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 07:33 PM   #137 
                 - most legal gun owners do not commit gun crimes  bossy22   Feb-18-08 08:46 PM   #139 
                    - You're trying to separate the gun owners from the criminals.  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-18-08 10:03 PM   #141 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-08 10:13 PM   #143 
                       - truthfully  bossy22   Feb-18-08 10:26 PM   #144 
                       - im reposting this  bossy22   Feb-19-08 03:53 PM   #148 
                       - Simple answer?  EricTeri   Feb-19-08 04:31 PM   #149 
        - Sarah. Marijuana.  SteveM   Feb-17-08 12:21 PM   #110 
        - Sarah...don't get out much much,  Tejas   Feb-18-08 05:55 AM   #122 
     - And, "IF" there were an armed citizen, s/he could have kept the  HiDemGunOwner   Feb-19-08 04:52 PM   #150 
     - To their parents and families, 19 and 20 year olds are children.  mycritters2   Feb-15-08 08:33 PM   #30 
     - 60 million people own 200 million firearms in the U.S,  spin   Feb-16-08 01:17 AM   #38 
     - Oh, it's more than that.  krispos42   Feb-16-08 02:30 AM   #44 
        - Bunny rabbits and guns  spin   Feb-16-08 11:45 AM   #84 
     - BEER has only one purpose  Tejas   Feb-16-08 06:42 AM   #48 
     - The same day as the U of I shooting, 273 people were killed by alcohol...  benEzra   Feb-16-08 09:57 AM   #55 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-16-08 10:51 AM   #67 
        - Thank you for  Tejas   Feb-18-08 05:48 AM   #121 
     - That .729 caliber rapid fire pump-action shotgun...  benEzra   Feb-16-08 09:51 AM   #54 
     - You really need to speak the truth, Sarah...  SteveM   Feb-17-08 12:13 PM   #109 
  - Driver used legitimately purchased vehicle to kill  Retired AF Dem   Feb-16-08 08:41 AM   #53 
  - If we'd only outlaw alloy wheels, rear spoilers, and clearcoat paint...  benEzra   Feb-16-08 10:04 AM   #56 
  - Cars aren't used expressly to murder. Guns are, however. Your assertion is pointless.  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:48 AM   #66 
     - Do you regard killing in self-defense as murder?  slackmaster   Feb-16-08 11:07 AM   #73 
     - I regard the entire gun industry and gun-love as creating a nation of murders from which  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 11:10 AM   #74 
        - Yet your very safety is protected by  slackmaster   Feb-16-08 11:13 AM   #76 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-16-08 11:15 AM   #78 
        - Good luck with that, same thing that someone else  Tejas   Feb-18-08 06:00 AM   #123 
     - That was sarcasm...  benEzra   Feb-16-08 12:57 PM   #88 
  - The only place a gun will drive you is to the morgue.  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 10:40 AM   #62 
     - The only place a gun will transport you is to the morgue  Retired AF Dem   Feb-16-08 10:58 AM   #70 
        - Another argument meant to protect your killing implements.....  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-16-08 11:19 AM   #79 
           - You know what truly scares me?  Retired AF Dem   Feb-16-08 11:40 AM   #82 
              - I wouldn't mind people talking on cell phones while driving if they'd keep their hands on the wheel  slackmaster   Feb-16-08 11:43 AM   #83 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-17-08 10:22 AM   #103 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-17-08 04:12 PM   #113 
  - Uh-oh, looks like those guns might not have been purchased legally after all  slackmaster   Feb-16-08 11:51 AM   #85 
  - if thats true  bossy22   Feb-16-08 01:09 PM   #90 
  - They were SOLD legally, just not PURCHASED legally.  MercutioATC   Feb-18-08 02:00 PM   #132 
     - VERY GOOD POINT!!!! n/t  Spoonman   Feb-19-08 03:05 PM   #147 
  - It's illegal for those who've received inpatient psych care  mycritters2   Feb-16-08 04:53 PM   #92 
  - Somebody screwed up his records, apparently...  benEzra   Feb-16-08 08:53 PM   #98 
  - Recieving inpatient psych car does not remove a persons rights to own firearms.  lepus   Feb-17-08 05:14 AM   #102 
     - You're wrong. In Illinois, those receiving inpatient care for psych disorders  mycritters2   Feb-17-08 04:50 PM   #116 
        - That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that.  benEzra   Feb-17-08 09:08 PM   #119 
  - What???  MAS 49_56   Feb-18-08 01:17 PM   #130 
 

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