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| 79. Tracking Guns Used in Crimes |
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Well Said: Follow the Guns It's time for Congress to free up the data on firearms. Wednesday, July 11, 2007; Page A14
THE BUREAU of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) used to release analyses of data gained by tracing the history of guns used in crimes. These reports yielded valuable information for local law enforcement officials, researchers and the public. Some of the results were startling: For example, 57 percent of crime guns came from 1.2 percent of licensed dealers, the ATF estimated in 2000. The guns the bad guys use don't just come from the black market, in other words; a huge proportion come from a handful of unscrupulous vendors.
But since Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.) added a rider to the Justice Department's budget in 2003, the ATF has been prohibited from sharing such gun-trace information with the public, keeping additional insights that might be gained from the data out of public view and making it harder for local authorities to connect the dots. Every year since, the so-called Tiahrt Amendment has gotten more restrictive, narrowing the ability of local police to gain access to or apply gun-trace information. The worst iteration yet came last month, when the Senate Appropriations Committee approved a version from Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) that threatens to put police officers in prison if they use federal gun-trace data for any purpose other than to advance specific, "bona fide criminal investigations" -- for proactively tracking and interdicting illicit guns, for example, or identifying problem gun sellers.
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| -AK-47 turns 60, and still a popular choice |
davepc |
Jul-08-07 01:59 PM |
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Happy Birthday!!! |
Cooley Hurd |
Jul-08-07 02:04 PM |
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Yep. Kalashnikov was one of the most influential people of the 20th century & beyond. |
laststeamtrain |
Jul-08-07 02:15 PM |
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Where's the SKS love? |
guntard |
Jul-08-07 02:31 PM |
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I think Mr Kalashnikov worked for Mr Simonov at one time |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-08-07 05:41 PM |
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Yep, I've got an SKS. A friend brought it home after Vietnam. nt |
MookieWilson |
Jul-09-07 09:54 AM |
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2 Tulas here... |
Xela |
Jul-09-07 11:48 AM |
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Just this last week I bought three more Norincos, $150 each plus shipping |
guntard |
Jul-09-07 01:14 PM |
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My wife has a 1952 Tula...the fit and finish is first-rate. |
benEzra |
Jul-09-07 08:58 PM |
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jesus christ |
iverglas |
Jul-09-07 09:24 PM |
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Easy now |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-09-07 09:32 PM |
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(oops, wrong place) |
iverglas |
Jul-10-07 07:13 AM |
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uh |
iverglas |
Jul-09-07 09:58 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-12-07 01:45 PM |
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Yeah, that's a Marine thing ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-14-07 03:29 PM |
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and if you think |
iverglas |
Jul-15-07 03:21 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but since the AK was invented... |
dmesg |
Jul-08-07 02:55 PM |
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It depends on how you define "occupying power" |
guntard |
Jul-08-07 03:47 PM |
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Yeah, I wasn't so much thinking civil wars |
dmesg |
Jul-08-07 04:12 PM |
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China did pretty well in Tibet |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-08-07 05:33 PM |
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The Chinese were prolly the ones with the AKs in Tibet |
guntard |
Jul-08-07 05:42 PM |
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Uh, Hungary? nt |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-08-07 05:38 PM |
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Were Hungarians allowed to own guns, pre-1956? |
benEzra |
Jul-09-07 06:25 PM |
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was that the subject of the question asked? |
iverglas |
Jul-09-07 06:51 PM |
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A poster brought up Hungary as a possible exception |
benEzra |
Jul-09-07 08:55 PM |
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no, but |
iverglas |
Jul-09-07 09:20 PM |
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Do you think that the despots of the world... |
Howzit |
Jul-10-07 04:52 AM |
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Yep, just a tool ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-10-07 06:23 AM |
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do you think that the moon |
iverglas |
Jul-10-07 01:57 PM |
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Wow! Thanks for the education. n/t |
Howzit |
Jul-10-07 09:20 PM |
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and on South Africa ... and Afghanistan |
iverglas |
Jul-11-07 11:12 AM |
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Like most Americans I forgot them |
dmesg |
Jul-11-07 10:05 AM |
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and now |
iverglas |
Jul-11-07 11:39 AM |
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Examples |
dmesg |
Jul-11-07 12:29 PM |
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Eritrea? |
iverglas |
Jul-11-07 02:49 PM |
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Not a lot of AK 47s in Cuba during the revolution. |
Hand |
Jul-18-07 08:01 PM |
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Anyone have that WP article on the 'officers/ladies' version of the AK that OBLaden uses? nt |
MookieWilson |
Jul-09-07 09:55 AM |
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A Krinkov AK, I think. |
scrinmaster |
Jul-09-07 11:08 AM |
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Like scrinmaster said, a Krinkov... |
benEzra |
Jul-09-07 06:21 PM |
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Either a machine gun or an SBR/AOW. |
scrinmaster |
Jul-10-07 01:30 AM |
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Good point. (n/t) |
benEzra |
Jul-10-07 07:02 AM |
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Goran Bregovic's "Kalashnikov"... |
Xela |
Jul-09-07 12:27 PM |
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Just to celebrate... |
Lex1775 |
Jul-09-07 08:28 PM |
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Such is the Sorry State of Gun Laws in this Country |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-09-07 09:24 PM |
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what law did he break?? |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-09-07 09:36 PM |
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What the hell are you going on about? |
Lex1775 |
Jul-09-07 10:42 PM |
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Yea...He heaps all AK47's in the same bin... |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-09-07 10:49 PM |
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AK-47 Production is Illegal in the US for a Good Reason |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-09-07 09:16 PM |
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Of course they are popular throughout the world, |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-09-07 09:28 PM |
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Does "true AK" mean full auto? |
guntard |
Jul-09-07 09:38 PM |
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Yes, that is what I meant. |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-09-07 09:40 PM |
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Citation Please |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-09-07 09:41 PM |
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Bad phrasing at Wiki? |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-09-07 09:49 PM |
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Sales? According to them Sales of Existing are Legal & Production is Not |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-09-07 09:59 PM |
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Sales is not. |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-09-07 10:06 PM |
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Semi-auto AK-47 clones are readily available |
pipoman |
Jul-09-07 11:32 PM |
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Manufacture is legal, but new production is restricted to military/police only |
benEzra |
Jul-10-07 07:11 AM |
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Wiki Cracks Me Up |
pipoman |
Jul-09-07 11:51 PM |
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It is not illegal to manufacture an AK-47 |
Man_in_the_Moon |
Jul-09-07 09:36 PM |
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LOL Its not illegal.... |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-09-07 09:38 PM |
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You are Embarassed? |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-09-07 09:42 PM |
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Your problem is simple... |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-09-07 10:46 PM |
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Got It |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-10-07 06:48 PM |
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Okay then... |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-10-07 07:40 PM |
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I'm Sure You Think I Don't Know the Difference Between a |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-10-07 09:16 PM |
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Proof here that you at least don't distinguish between restricted automatic weapons |
benEzra |
Jul-11-07 11:19 AM |
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Yawn.......... |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-11-07 05:59 PM |
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Snottiness like that only works... |
dairydog91 |
Jul-11-07 07:02 PM |
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... if your name is iverglas |
iverglas |
Jul-11-07 07:05 PM |
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So, you concede that we're right? Good... |
derby378 |
Jul-11-07 08:01 PM |
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Your post earns the Heracles Fifth Labour Badge! n/t |
jody |
Jul-11-07 07:08 PM |
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Build your own AK receiver! |
Nabeshin |
Jul-09-07 11:56 PM |
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Production's not illegal, but they'd be restricted to police/military only |
benEzra |
Jul-10-07 07:09 AM |
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And the M1 Garand turns 70 in ten days |
krispos42 |
Jul-11-07 11:03 AM |
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Why you should own an M1 |
guntard |
Jul-11-07 12:28 PM |
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oh gawd oh gawd, it's another one |
iverglas |
Jul-11-07 08:00 PM |
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You did notice that the blog owner was not |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-11-07 10:08 PM |
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ah yes |
iverglas |
Jul-12-07 06:21 AM |
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Read the MJ article: flawed by grafting on the usual gun-control stuff. |
SteveM |
Jul-12-07 03:15 PM |
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thanks for your concern |
iverglas |
Jul-12-07 04:08 PM |
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SteveM's assessment is correct. |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-12-07 05:28 PM |
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Thanks. Use to subscribe to MJ -- too stodgy for me, now. (nt) |
SteveM |
Jul-13-07 03:25 PM |
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figured out the difference between fact and opinion yet? |
iverglas |
Jul-13-07 07:20 PM |
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OK, I will grant you that your apparent standards for |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-13-07 09:32 PM |
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Is it easier to blame inanimate objects? |
DavidMS |
Jul-14-07 01:55 PM |
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are you purporting to speak to me? |
iverglas |
Jul-14-07 07:46 PM |
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Its important to exame the history of conflicts. |
DavidMS |
Jul-15-07 06:05 PM |
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oh, let's just stop right there |
iverglas |
Jul-15-07 06:35 PM |
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My intrestes run more towards European History at this point |
DavidMS |
Jul-15-07 11:07 PM |
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you most certainly do |
iverglas |
Jul-16-07 05:38 AM |
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Iverglass, I was trying to give you the benifit of the doubt |
DavidMS |
Jul-17-07 12:01 AM |
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i don't know about blaming inanimate objects.... |
Scout |
Jul-15-07 04:45 PM |
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heh |
iverglas |
Jul-15-07 06:09 PM |
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He he he... |
krispos42 |
Jul-12-07 01:37 AM |
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Go ahead and laugh ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-13-07 06:26 AM |
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Alas, I do not qualify for a CMP Garand |
krispos42 |
Jul-13-07 09:18 AM |
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I have been thinking of getting a CMP carbine |
pipoman |
Jul-14-07 12:14 AM |
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Not a member of a gun club |
krispos42 |
Jul-14-07 02:28 AM |
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its funny |
jmeyer |
Jul-14-07 08:51 AM |
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Gottcha |
pipoman |
Jul-14-07 09:05 AM |
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CMP recognizes many clubs |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-14-07 03:20 PM |
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A Finnish M39 is also a defender of freedom... |
Endangered Specie |
Jul-15-07 10:45 PM |
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Tracking Guns Used in Crimes |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-12-07 06:36 PM |
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Aha...What a load of crap, and YOUR spreading it. |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-12-07 08:08 PM |
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Yes or No? |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-12-07 08:44 PM |
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I have no problems with that restriction... |
virginia mountainman |
Jul-12-07 09:47 PM |
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It is no different |
pipoman |
Jul-12-07 10:07 PM |
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BTW what does this have to do with this thread? Maybe you should start your own. |
pipoman |
Jul-12-07 10:10 PM |
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Does anyone have any freaking clue how this post belongs in the Gungeon? |
Wickerman |
Jul-12-07 08:51 PM |
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With all due Respect, the Original Post is about the 60th Anniversary of a Particular Gun |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-12-07 09:07 PM |
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Exactly. |
benEzra |
Jul-12-07 10:30 PM |
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My concern isn't so much the direction of the thread |
Wickerman |
Jul-13-07 10:08 AM |
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actually according to the pinned thread at forum top, it ISN'T on topic |
Wickerman |
Jul-12-07 11:00 PM |
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If the topic had been ".30-'06 celebrates 101 birthday," move it. But.... |
SteveM |
Jul-13-07 04:43 PM |
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all excellent points - but they were not made in the Original Post (O.P.) |
Wickerman |
Jul-13-07 06:53 PM |
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It would help if this forum had a better |
ManiacJoe |
Jul-13-07 08:53 PM |
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"This is the War Room. There is no fighting in the War Room" |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-13-07 09:22 PM |
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It used to be called Justice and Public Safety |
Wickerman |
Jul-13-07 10:20 PM |
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Skinner's Guidelines Suggest Otherwise |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-15-07 11:55 AM |
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you'll get no argument from me |
Wickerman |
Jul-15-07 04:07 PM |
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More Clarification |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-15-07 04:23 PM |
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no |
Wickerman |
Jul-15-07 05:36 PM |
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What is the history of the "Gungeon" for us relative new-comers? |
SteveM |
Jul-15-07 11:55 AM |
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it's such a divisive and iconic symbol and tool |
davepc |
Jul-13-07 08:14 PM |
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Dave, you post some of the most interesting and well-discussed |
Wickerman |
Jul-13-07 10:24 PM |
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Considering |
qdemn7 |
Jul-13-07 10:52 PM |
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The groups are for donors |
Wickerman |
Jul-13-07 11:32 PM |
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Clarification Please |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-15-07 12:12 PM |
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RKBA = Right to Keep and Bear Arms |
Wickerman |
Jul-15-07 04:12 PM |
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Guns |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-15-07 04:55 PM |
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No, your posts aren't missing for those reasons |
Wickerman |
Jul-15-07 05:39 PM |
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They are not |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Jul-15-07 06:45 PM |
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The key word is IF you are missing posts |
Wickerman |
Jul-15-07 07:44 PM |
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Just to stir the pot a little... |
benEzra |
Jul-15-07 05:32 PM |
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Ah its just a teenager... the Mauser is approaching 110 |
Endangered Specie |
Jul-15-07 10:39 PM |
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thats just the mauser 98 |
jmeyer |
Jul-16-07 01:37 AM |
#132 |