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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 02:19 PM
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7. I can only imagine how 2000 armed college students would react.
(1) Shooter starts shooting
(2) Everyone draws and starts shooting at whoever has a drawn gun
(3) Complete anarchy ensues.

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  -This is why we all need carry permits cgrindley  Apr-16-07 02:17 PM   #0 
  - Wrong. Try again. n/m  AndyA   Apr-16-07 02:17 PM   #1 
  - Care to back that up?  Nabeshin   Apr-16-07 02:19 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-16-07 02:18 PM   #2 
  - So disagreement = idiot?  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:24 PM   #19 
  - people are crazy -- i do not want to live around people with guns.  xchrom   Apr-16-07 02:19 PM   #4 
  - You probably already do.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:25 PM   #20 
     - where i live -- in my small conduminium -- we're all anti-gun.  xchrom   Apr-16-07 05:00 PM   #95 
        - Why don't you put a sign on the front lawn that says so...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:07 PM   #99 
           - bwahahaha -- nutty people have the cutest opinions.  xchrom   Apr-16-07 05:27 PM   #107 
              - What's nutty about that?  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:43 PM   #112 
                 - -- what a vivid imagination you have!!!  xchrom   Apr-16-07 05:59 PM   #116 
                    - Nothing imaginary about the fact...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 06:07 PM   #117 
                       - those are opinions not facts.  xchrom   Apr-16-07 06:19 PM   #119 
                          - What's silly about it?  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 06:23 PM   #120 
  - Surely you are being sarcastic  frazzled   Apr-16-07 02:19 PM   # 
  - So the answer to gun violence is more guns?  BattyDem   Apr-16-07 02:19 PM   #5 
  - Strange as it may seem,  HALO141   Apr-16-07 03:43 PM   #73 
  - It certainly isn't taking them all away....  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:04 PM   #76 
     - I know that, but ...  BattyDem   Apr-16-07 04:13 PM   #81 
        - What would you have happen then?  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:17 PM   #82 
           - But not everyone is a rational, responsible person  BattyDem   Apr-16-07 04:38 PM   #89 
           - That's what background checks are for.  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:52 PM   #93 
              - Let's just agree to disagree on this one.  BattyDem   Apr-16-07 04:59 PM   #94 
                 - Well...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:05 PM   #97 
                    - "The problem folks in your spot have is where you draw the line."  BattyDem   Apr-16-07 05:40 PM   #111 
                    - You know who DEFINITELY shouldn't carry?  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:45 PM   #113 
                       - I agree with you.  BattyDem   Apr-16-07 05:58 PM   #115 
                    - trained, competent, law abiding citizen like me shouldn't get to carry  TX-RAT   Apr-17-07 10:27 AM   #157 
           - Not exactly  jgraz   Apr-17-07 01:29 AM   #137 
           - CCW permit holders are to cops what EMTs and Paramedics are to the emergency room.  TX-RAT   Apr-17-07 09:55 AM   #151 
  - Wow. Talk about wrong....  bowens43   Apr-16-07 02:19 PM   #6 
  - He could have killed just as many, maybe more  murloc   Apr-17-07 08:12 PM   #163 
  - I can only imagine how 2000 armed college students would react.  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 02:19 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-16-07 02:29 PM   #26 
  - Whereas...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:18 PM   #84 
  - Have any examples of this?  Nabeshin   Apr-16-07 02:34 PM   #34 
  - Just following the OP's suggestion. Lets try a social experiement.  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 02:39 PM   #40 
     - Why always the presumption...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:19 PM   #85 
     - Did you have a problem reading the OP?  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 04:41 PM   #90 
        - hmph  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:06 PM   #98 
        - Trouble is  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 05:12 PM   #101 
           - Trouble is...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:16 PM   #102 
              - Every tragedy like today is an opportunity to sell more guns, right?  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 05:30 PM   #108 
              - Sigh...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:51 PM   #114 
              - I viewed your argument: just more culture war. I'm curious though...  SteveM   Apr-16-07 09:10 PM   #128 
                 - Honestly? I have no idea.  Old and In the Way   Apr-17-07 01:15 AM   #136 
              - Exactly...  TnDem   Apr-16-07 09:20 PM   #132 
        - Well, the OP's proposition is an extreme strawman.  Nabeshin   Apr-16-07 05:12 PM   #100 
     - It's been done, and continuing still  jgraz   Apr-17-07 01:35 AM   #138 
  - Here's the alternative  DonP   Apr-16-07 06:27 PM   #121 
  - Yeah that sounds wonderful  MessiahRp   Apr-16-07 02:20 PM   #8 
  - When the U.S. is the world leader in the export of violence  Tempest   Apr-16-07 02:21 PM   #9 
  - Exactly! Thank you.  RufusTFirefly   Apr-16-07 02:25 PM   #21 
  - Imagine a bunch of armed students all firing at the shooter. I think more people would be killed by  Sapere aude   Apr-16-07 02:21 PM   #10 
  - Very quickly, the shooter becomes anyone doing the shooting.  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 02:30 PM   #28 
  - The cops are lousy shots and they're highly trained  Tempest   Apr-16-07 02:55 PM   # 
     - For the most part,  HALO141   Apr-16-07 03:47 PM   #74 
     - Cops generally are NOT  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:05 PM   #77 
        - Law enforcement personnel have to qualify every 3 months  Tempest   Apr-16-07 04:18 PM   #83 
           - If it's so easy...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:21 PM   #86 
  - You should get NO CARRY PERMIT if you FAIL to MEET QUALIFICATIONS.  Selatius   Apr-16-07 02:21 PM   #11 
  - That's how it is in Ohio.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:30 PM   #30 
  - Bullshit.  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:22 PM   #12 
  - See above...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:06 PM   #79 
     - How do I know that YOU"RE well-trained?  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 08:39 AM   #143 
        - Excellent response.  TX-RAT   Apr-17-07 10:03 AM   #152 
        - Some things you don't get to know.  HALO141   Apr-17-07 11:51 AM   #158 
  - Yippee!!!!  Midlodemocrat   Apr-16-07 02:22 PM   #13 
  - No thank you! I prefer to risk one nutcase at a time.  damntexdem   Apr-16-07 02:23 PM   #14 
  - The student body are nutcases?  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:31 PM   #31 
     - More than just a few of them  Tempest   Apr-16-07 02:58 PM   #59 
        - That's quite a claim.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 03:08 PM   #66 
           - The evidence is overwhelming  Tempest   Apr-16-07 04:21 PM   #87 
              - Think we should ban 'em? (nt)  SteveM   Apr-16-07 09:19 PM   #131 
  - Why wouldn't it mean...  dchill   Apr-16-07 02:23 PM   #15 
  - Doubtful.  Taverner   Apr-16-07 02:23 PM   #16 
  - Sorry, in the Texas universities,  Hangingon   Apr-16-07 02:23 PM   #17 
  - I think you need to re-read  HALO141   Apr-17-07 11:53 AM   #159 
     - I worked at UT. No weapons on campus.  Hangingon   Apr-17-07 07:11 PM   #161 
  - Wow. Can I have some of whatever you're drinking?  ThomCat   Apr-16-07 02:23 PM   #18 
  - The Archie Bunker solution  RufusTFirefly   Apr-16-07 02:27 PM   #24 
  - I can see  Alcibiades   Apr-16-07 02:27 PM   #22 
  - really?  mzteris   Apr-16-07 02:27 PM   #23 
  - Of course. That was James Madison's intent..  BOSSHOG   Apr-16-07 02:28 PM   #25 
  - "If they didn't like a grade just kill the motherfucking teacher."  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:34 PM   #35 
     - The suggestion is  BOSSHOG   Apr-16-07 02:40 PM   #42 
        - "Was that the founding fathers intent?"  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:47 PM   #47 
        - I don't find it ambiguous  BOSSHOG   Apr-16-07 02:53 PM   #53 
           - Most opinionated individuals don't.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 03:06 PM   #64 
              - To clarify  BOSSHOG   Apr-16-07 03:11 PM   #68 
        - IIRC, Bosshog...those militia's also had stockades were they  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 02:50 PM   #49 
           - When the Constitution was written...  Nabeshin   Apr-16-07 05:39 PM   #110 
  - Well, all of you that think the poster is WRONG...  virginia mountainman   Apr-16-07 02:30 PM   #27 
  - Let's wait until all the facts come in V.M....  Virginia Dare   Apr-16-07 02:33 PM   #33 
  - Not that I have much faith in the media, but..  HALO141   Apr-17-07 12:00 PM   #160 
  - Any law is effective only when enforced...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:36 PM   #37 
  - "Other nations have some of the most effective gun control laws ..."  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:41 PM   #43 
     - Sorry, but that makes no sense.  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:51 PM   #50 
        - Correlation is not cause and effect.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 03:04 PM   #63 
           - Yes, it is cause and effect.  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 03:14 PM   #69 
  - define 'worked' please  northzax   Apr-16-07 02:40 PM   #41 
  - I do not know what the solution is  BOSSHOG   Apr-16-07 02:46 PM   #46 
  - WTF??? nt  NRaleighLiberal   Apr-16-07 02:30 PM   #29 
  - Hello?  Hepburn   Apr-16-07 02:33 PM   #32 
  - I think the point is that the assailant would be dead and, therefore, ...  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:37 PM   #38 
     - Just pulling a trigger doesn't mean you'll hit your target...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:43 PM   #44 
     - "...how many rounds are fired by trained policemen or military personnel..."  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:55 PM   #57 
        - But that's my point...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 03:02 PM   #61 
           - Two points.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 03:17 PM   #70 
              - Again, that doesn't reflect real-world situations...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 03:36 PM   #72 
                 - I agree.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 04:05 PM   #78 
                 - Pretty likely  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 09:14 PM   #129 
                 - So, if cops can't shoot, and that's what they do for a living...  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 08:42 AM   #145 
                 - Hundreds of thousands of Americans have used their CCWs to defend themselves lawfully.  TX-RAT   Apr-17-07 10:12 AM   #153 
                 - If you had a gun at VT, would you have used it on the killer? (nt)  SteveM   Apr-16-07 09:25 PM   #133 
                    - No, because I wouldn't carry a gun on a college campus, at all.  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 08:50 AM   #146 
                       - why do people feel the need to have a gun on their person at all times?  TX-RAT   Apr-17-07 10:14 AM   #154 
     - That's an assumption with no basis in reality.  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 02:43 PM   #45 
        - I said I didn't know the specific facts. nt  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:48 PM   #48 
        - Zactly. You've got an instant free-fire zone...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:53 PM   #52 
        - Your example situation isn't remotely realistic.  Nabeshin   Apr-16-07 05:37 PM   #109 
           - Good points  Xela   Apr-17-07 10:14 AM   #155 
  - expressing such a sentiment should be grounds for automatic refusal...  mike_c   Apr-16-07 02:36 PM   #36 
  - That's offensive.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:39 PM   #39 
     - so you think more shooting is the answer...?  mike_c   Apr-16-07 02:53 PM   #51 
     - Yea, Only the BAD guy was shooting..  virginia mountainman   Apr-16-07 02:54 PM   #55 
     - Quick...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:59 PM   #60 
        - Well, you make sure you have a 9mm with a 15 shot magazine.....  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 03:04 PM   #62 
        - Darn straight, podner!!!  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 03:07 PM   #65 
        - "You whirl around, pull your concealed-carry, and look for the shooter."  Xela   Apr-16-07 05:21 PM   #105 
        - Wow, you mean an anti was making an anti gun argument...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:23 PM   #106 
        - Actually, I know a great deal about firearms, and have several myself...  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 08:26 AM   #140 
        - LOL! So you mean to tell me...  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 08:33 AM   #141 
           - You'll play along?  Xela   Apr-17-07 09:06 AM   #147 
              - I've owned up to my scenario...  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 09:14 AM   #148 
                 - You did not...but nevermind...  Xela   Apr-17-07 09:53 AM   #150 
        - I live in Florida, the Gunshine state.  scrinmaster   Apr-17-07 08:40 AM   #144 
     - I didn't say that.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 02:58 PM   #58 
     - Teddy Kennedy probably didn't buy his car thinking "let's drive drunk!"  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:30 PM   #88 
        - And he lost 2 brothers to guns.  Old and In the Way   Apr-16-07 05:19 PM   #103 
           - Whereas advocating taking guns away from everyone...  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 05:20 PM   #104 
           - A point could be made that typically one would expect, on a Dem  Wickerman   Apr-16-07 09:33 PM   #134 
              - Save it  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 11:31 PM   #135 
                 - Kennedy a scourge to our party?  Wickerman   Apr-17-07 07:28 AM   #139 
                    - He doesn't swoon over the gun lobby...  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 09:36 AM   #149 
           - Didn't Senator JFK sponsor protectionist legislation for gun-makers in Mass?  SteveM   Apr-16-07 09:15 PM   #130 
     - "I need to carry a concealed gun" is NOT a political opinion...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 02:55 PM   #56 
        - True, but we enlightened liberals do not denigrate people for opinions. nt  Deep13   Apr-16-07 03:09 PM   #67 
           - "I want a concealed gun" isn't any sort of opinion, at all...  Hobarticus   Apr-16-07 03:23 PM   #71 
              - Need? Try right!  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 07:59 PM   #126 
                 - I'm not belittling anyone...  Hobarticus   Apr-17-07 08:36 AM   #142 
  - Bullshit n/t  simskl   Apr-16-07 02:54 PM   #54 
  - A cop's opinion  liliysdad   Apr-16-07 04:00 PM   #75 
     - Thanks!  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 04:08 PM   #80 
     - Yeah, thanks  cgrindley   Apr-16-07 04:47 PM   #92 
     - Thanks for your support.  Xela   Apr-16-07 05:03 PM   #96 
  - If this is a serious propositition...  Xela   Apr-16-07 04:47 PM   #91 
  - Same thing here in CT  cgrindley   Apr-16-07 06:10 PM   #118 
  - Texas require classroom time (including non-violent dispute resolution), background check, range tim  TX-RAT   Apr-17-07 10:21 AM   #156 
     - Texas stats  Xela   Apr-17-07 07:35 PM   #162 
  - I apologize for defending gun rights while this was going on.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 06:50 PM   #122 
     - Look what "venting" over 9/11 got us  cgrindley   Apr-16-07 06:52 PM   #123 
        - What cgrindley said  hydrashok75   Apr-16-07 06:57 PM   #124 
           - Yeah,but it is not like this thread will become an act of Congress.  Deep13   Apr-16-07 07:20 PM   #125 
              - Problem is...  virginia mountainman   Apr-16-07 08:08 PM   #127 
 

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