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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:50 PM
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41. The ban expired over two years ago
Where are the rivers of blood?

And, gee, didn't Columbine and the North Hollywood Shoot-Out occur DURING the ban?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_shooting

Criminals don't usually use them because they are too big. You can't saw off a barrel on an AK or an AR because they are gas-operated. Shortening the barrel screws up the reloading mechanism and the gun won't work. Not enough gas pressure to cycle the bold. And for the short range that most criminal activities take place, a sawed-off pump or double shotgun is more effective. And far cheaper. cut off the barrel, cut down the stock, and get some low-recoil buckshot. And keep your targets close.

Somebody else already mentioned it was part of a far larger bill, so I'll leave that alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_...
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  -Gun poll! Which gun is the deadliest? Nabeshin  Jan-06-07 07:34 PM   #0 
  - The next one used in America's high murder rate  billbuckhead   Jan-06-07 07:36 PM   #1 
  - And what exactly is an assault weapon? n/t  spoony   Jan-06-07 07:50 PM   #12 
  - Anything based on the design of the classic Nazi Sturmgewehr  billbuckhead   Jan-06-07 08:16 PM   #21 
  - That was a better answer than most  krispos42   Jan-07-07 10:27 AM   #52 
  - According to the Brady Bill:  johnaries   Jan-06-07 08:25 PM   #24 
     - Points to make:  krispos42   Jan-06-07 11:38 PM   #40 
        - Silencers or suppressors aren't illegal.  scrinmaster   Jan-07-07 01:39 AM   #45 
        - Well, not generally legal  krispos42   Jan-07-07 01:45 AM   #46 
        - Just one thing to add...  Nabeshin   Jan-07-07 02:47 AM   #49 
        - Well, once outlawed things rarely become legal again  krispos42   Jan-07-07 10:54 AM   #53 
           - An FN FS-2000 with a suppressor is shorter  scrinmaster   Jan-08-07 11:12 PM   #68 
           - Wow, that is one compact rifle  krispos42   Jan-10-07 04:20 AM   #73 
              - I've played around with one at a gun store.  scrinmaster   Jan-13-07 11:14 PM   #82 
           - If you are so stupid to let a predator into arms length then you get what you deserve  lastout   Jan-15-07 03:43 PM   #85 
              - Um, it's a home-defense situation  krispos42   Jan-17-07 04:29 AM   #89 
        - to clarify one point--silencers/suppressors are legal under the NFA act of 1934  lastout   Jan-15-07 03:38 PM   #84 
           - slightly more complicated than that  Billy Ruffian   Jan-15-07 09:16 PM   #86 
              - Not if you buy it through a trust or corporation.  scrinmaster   Jan-16-07 10:28 PM   #88 
  - The sky-high rifle murder rate...  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 08:06 PM   #17 
  - Perhaps part of that low % is because of the BAN since 1994.  johnaries   Jan-06-07 08:21 PM   #23 
     - Every LEO organization supported it, huh...  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 09:01 PM   #30 
     - Actually, THIS is why they supported it in 1991 AND 2004:  johnaries   Jan-06-07 09:26 PM   #33 
        - Yay, cut & paste! You can make an argument without even trying!  piedmont   Jan-07-07 12:24 AM   #42 
        - Low-probably high-impact events  krispos42   Jan-07-07 12:55 AM   #43 
        - have a couple more  iverglas   Jan-08-07 10:54 AM   #64 
        - Which the FBI Uniform Crime Reports clearly show to be BS...  benEzra   Jan-10-07 10:07 AM   #74 
     - The ban expired over two years ago  krispos42   Jan-06-07 11:50 PM   #41 
        - You make very good points  spoony   Jan-07-07 01:49 AM   #47 
           - THANK YOU  krispos42   Jan-07-07 02:00 AM   #48 
  - Oh, dear, are you still yammering about our 'high' murder rate?  krispos42   Jan-06-07 10:37 PM   #37 
  - Here's some more silly games for you..  sir pball   Jan-07-07 10:55 AM   #54 
  - Another excellent point  krispos42   Jan-07-07 11:07 AM   #55 
     - Thankya, but to be fair  sir pball   Jan-07-07 11:51 AM   #58 
  - Where have I heard that quote before? WAY before...  Doctor Venmkan   Jan-07-07 09:12 PM   #62 
     - such a fascinating tidbit  iverglas   Jan-08-07 05:11 PM   #66 
        - Quotes and cites:  Nabeshin   Jan-08-07 09:40 PM   #67 
        - oh dear  iverglas   Jan-09-07 09:34 AM   #69 
        - The paraphrased quote retains the spirit of the original...  Nabeshin   Jan-09-07 06:55 PM   #72 
           - hmm  iverglas   Jan-10-07 10:14 AM   #75 
              - Your deliberate obtuseness aside...  Nabeshin   Jan-10-07 10:39 AM   #76 
        - Thanks!  Doctor Venmkan   Jan-09-07 05:20 PM   #70 
        - You're only halfway right about my winky...  Doctor Venmkan   Jan-09-07 05:29 PM   #71 
  - The answer lies in who is shooting with it and what they're aiming at.  Kerrytravelers   Jan-06-07 07:37 PM   #2 
  - And how good of a shot they are  Mz Pip   Jan-06-07 07:38 PM   #4 
     - Very good point!  Kerrytravelers   Jan-06-07 07:44 PM   #8 
  - I know sfa about guns  edwardlindy   Jan-06-07 07:38 PM   #3 
  - I'm not asking how many fatalities each gun is involved in...  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 07:46 PM   #10 
     - You didn't express it that way  edwardlindy   Jan-06-07 07:49 PM   #11 
  - call me old fashioned, i went with B...  bridgit   Jan-06-07 07:39 PM   #5 
  - "Per shot"? Then I'm guessing the only single shot rifle in the list.  johnaries   Jan-06-07 07:40 PM   #6 
  - Not exactly...  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 07:57 PM   #15 
  - Have to disagree with you.  johnaries   Jan-06-07 08:10 PM   #20 
     - At short ranges...  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 08:50 PM   #29 
        - Ah, but you didn't specify range. And few murders happen from  johnaries   Jan-06-07 09:01 PM   #31 
  - he said, "...per shot", not trigger pull.  sammythecat   Jan-06-07 10:42 PM   #38 
  - You kind of tainted your poll  Az   Jan-06-07 07:40 PM   #7 
  - B but I'd sure like to own A  tmfun   Jan-06-07 07:45 PM   #9 
  - I was actually considering buying A  johnaries   Jan-06-07 07:51 PM   #14 
  - The loaded one pointed at you  lastknowngood   Jan-06-07 07:50 PM   #13 
  - A&D  Rex   Jan-06-07 07:59 PM   #16 
  - I don't know, but this is deadlier than all of them  new_beawr   Jan-06-07 08:08 PM   #18 
  - If we're talking Knockdown power, B  JonathanChance   Jan-06-07 08:08 PM   #19 
  - C actually uses FN 5.7  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 08:28 PM   #26 
     - Don't knock the 5.7...  JonathanChance   Jan-06-07 09:08 PM   #32 
        - Technically correct..  sir pball   Jan-07-07 09:35 AM   #50 
  - Do I get to fire it fully automatic or just single shot ?  TheBaldyMan   Jan-06-07 08:21 PM   #22 
  - How many degrees of dead do you believe there are?  porphyrian   Jan-06-07 08:27 PM   #25 
  - Wounding effectiveness  krispos42   Jan-07-07 11:23 AM   #56 
  - the one that fires a bullet that kills someone n/t  nosmokes   Jan-06-07 08:44 PM   #27 
  - Other.  William769   Jan-06-07 08:47 PM   #28 
  - the deadliest  stranger   Jan-06-07 09:29 PM   #34 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-07 04:27 PM   #65 
  - LOL  bunyip   Jan-12-07 06:54 PM   #79 
  - Which one do you grab when things go bump in the night?  krispos42   Jan-06-07 09:36 PM   #35 
  - I'd Pick D  JonathanChance   Jan-06-07 10:05 PM   #36 
  - Well, I wouldn't want to use rifles for home defense...  Nabeshin   Jan-06-07 10:47 PM   #39 
     - Me neither  krispos42   Jan-07-07 01:03 AM   #44 
     - Softpoints take care of that..  sir pball   Jan-07-07 09:39 AM   #51 
        - "Light, thin-skinned game"? lol  krispos42   Jan-07-07 11:33 AM   #57 
           - Hmmm  sir pball   Jan-07-07 12:01 PM   #59 
              - Not bad for a fixed position  krispos42   Jan-07-07 06:35 PM   #61 
  - None of the above--- A 12 gage shotgun will beat any of the above at close range  lastout   Jan-07-07 05:24 PM   #60 
  - E: The one you don't have when you really need it  slackmaster   Jan-08-07 08:56 AM   #63 
  - Depends on where you hit...  meldroc   Jan-10-07 04:07 PM   #77 
  - Um  sir pball   Jan-11-07 06:55 AM   #78 
  - Responsibility  IDARNG_Loki   Jan-13-07 10:56 PM   #80 
  - Perhaps  CHIMO   Jan-13-07 11:06 PM   #81 
  - See post 56 n/t  krispos42   Jan-14-07 12:19 AM   #83 
  - I chose Gun D...  derby378   Jan-16-07 09:03 PM   #87 
  - "Range"  Xela   Jan-18-07 11:20 AM   #90 
  - Guns A and C would be much more effective...  benEzra   Jan-18-07 02:07 PM   #91 
  - C does have a magazine.  scrinmaster   Jan-18-07 04:38 PM   #92 
  - locked - asked and answered  Wickerman   Jan-18-07 05:05 PM   #93 
 

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