krispos42
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Mon Jul-10-06 02:24 AM
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I checked out some info on the FBI's website. It looks like in 2003 there were slightly less than 15,000 homicides in this country. Slighty less than 10,000 were caused by guns in one fashion or another.
The real question here is does banning guns reduce homicides?
Of course homicides by guns go down as they are removed from the public. That is obvious. I bet there are very few people killed by horse-drawn chariots every year as well. Not because chariots have gotten safer, but because there are few chariots running around. I also bet that fewer people die per capita from frostbite in Arizona than in North Dakota. If you remove the manner of potential death from a population, then the deaths caused by that potential will decrease.
I bet that Germany also has a really low rate of handgun suicide. They probably have a comperable suicide rate to us, but the anti-gun advocate would note only the really low handgun-suicide rate and ignore the drastically higher rates by jumping, pills, and self-mutilation.
Those countries mentioned above are not known for gun rights, and have a low number of guns per capita. The question is are homicide rates per capita that much better? In the US, we have 15,000 homicides in a population of some 280,000,000, or about 5.35 per hundred thousand people per year. Is Germany better or worse?
There are some 220 million firearms in this country, which represents some 60%+ of the total worldwide civilian firearm population. I'm pretty sure we don't have 60% of all firearm homicides.
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Spica |
Jul-03-06 03:30 PM |
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I think that people who don't know how to use them should not carry them |
eleny |
Jul-03-06 03:33 PM |
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I think the idea would be that other people would be safer. |
bemildred |
Jul-03-06 03:33 PM |
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ask them in return to prove the people were safer |
AZDemDist6 |
Jul-03-06 03:36 PM |
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Not a good statistic... |
krispos42 |
Jul-10-06 02:24 AM |
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Turn the question around... |
Totally Committed |
Jul-03-06 03:37 PM |
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That doesn't fly |
Spica |
Jul-03-06 03:43 PM |
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Gun crime has not risen in England. n/t |
Finder |
Jul-03-06 03:56 PM |
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Violent crime certainly has though |
Spica |
Jul-03-06 04:12 PM |
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Not true... |
57_TomCat |
Jul-03-06 06:13 PM |
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I'm intrigued... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-25-06 09:34 AM |
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damn, you're good! |
iverglas |
Jul-04-06 09:24 AM |
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It is not a pointless question... |
Spica |
Jul-05-06 12:05 PM |
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so ... I'm still wondering |
iverglas |
Jul-05-06 05:27 PM |
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Thanks for setting me straight. |
Spica |
Jul-05-06 07:12 PM |
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"still doesn't answer the question" |
iverglas |
Jul-05-06 07:36 PM |
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Again thank you |
Spica |
Jul-05-06 07:52 PM |
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Couldn't we just compare the violent crime rate here to that of England |
Skip Intro |
Jul-03-06 03:39 PM |
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England? |
Finder |
Jul-03-06 03:46 PM |
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Gee.... |
catnhatnh |
Jul-03-06 03:55 PM |
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I support the second amendment.....the thing about lawless times |
Ragazz68 |
Jul-03-06 03:55 PM |
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Britain is a great example. |
Ravy |
Jul-03-06 04:01 PM |
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Not really, and here's why |
slackmaster |
Jul-05-06 01:09 PM |
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Here is my take on the subject |
blimpie |
Jul-03-06 04:02 PM |
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You mean like in the District of Columbia? |
benEzra |
Jul-03-06 10:06 PM |
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or hey, how about my house? |
iverglas |
Jul-04-06 09:31 AM |
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Quite so... |
benEzra |
Jul-04-06 03:53 PM |
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it is? |
iverglas |
Jul-04-06 04:52 PM |
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A quibble. |
thefamethrowa |
Jul-06-06 09:46 PM |
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So what should we work on changing? |
Nabeshin |
Jul-06-06 03:55 AM |
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eek! sounds like COMMUNISM to me!!! |
iverglas |
Jul-06-06 07:52 AM |
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What's your point? |
Nabeshin |
Jul-06-06 02:58 PM |
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my my my; YA THINK??? |
iverglas |
Jul-06-06 03:47 PM |
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Sigh... |
Nabeshin |
Jul-07-06 12:37 AM |
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talk about yer over-heated, eh? |
iverglas |
Jul-07-06 10:57 AM |
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That's quite a catalog of fallacious arguments. |
Nabeshin |
Jul-08-06 02:05 AM |
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Of course they would be easier to spot! |
krispos42 |
Jul-10-06 02:50 AM |
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Try google...or our old pal Ann Ecdotal |
SoCalDem |
Jul-03-06 04:05 PM |
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It takes only an instant |
left is right |
Jul-03-06 05:27 PM |
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That is true that guns can make people aggressors. |
blimpie |
Jul-03-06 05:37 PM |
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I respect your opinion, and your personal choices on the subject... |
benEzra |
Jul-03-06 10:18 PM |
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my goodness |
iverglas |
Jul-04-06 09:36 AM |
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No, they're not...thank goodness... |
benEzra |
Jul-04-06 03:53 PM |
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I used to own a .22 rifle and a .38 revolver |
slackmaster |
Jul-05-06 01:15 PM |
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Can't answer that ,but |
justgamma |
Jul-03-06 05:46 PM |
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I cannot think of any time gun restrictions have worked |
schwindj |
Jul-03-06 06:02 PM |
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National Guard |
blimpie |
Jul-03-06 06:26 PM |
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National Guard is not the militia |
Spica |
Jul-03-06 06:52 PM |
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Militia definition.....sounds like the NG to me. |
blimpie |
Jul-03-06 07:14 PM |
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Federal law defines the militia as every male citizen aged 18 to 45... |
benEzra |
Jul-03-06 10:21 PM |
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The NG is under Federal Command |
hydrashok75 |
Jul-06-06 10:12 AM |
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Facts not assumptions |
PeterBrady |
Jul-03-06 07:18 PM |
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You have proved my point. about the NG |
blimpie |
Jul-03-06 07:28 PM |
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Jul-03-06 08:04 PM |
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The right recognized is not that of the militia, but of the PEOPLE... |
benEzra |
Jul-03-06 10:27 PM |
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The 2nd amendment can always be changed or interpreted differently |
blimpie |
Jul-04-06 05:44 AM |
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short on facts strong on hyperbole n/t |
crankybubba |
Jul-04-06 11:59 AM |
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My wife and I, and 80 million others, strongly disagree with you... |
benEzra |
Jul-04-06 03:49 PM |
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The People |
Spica |
Jul-05-06 12:31 PM |
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pretty learnèd discourse |
iverglas |
Jul-05-06 05:48 PM |
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Even if the Second Amendment doesn't say that, the Ninth does |
slackmaster |
Jul-05-06 01:13 PM |
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That doesn't make any sense. |
hydrashok75 |
Jul-06-06 10:15 AM |
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well regulated = well trained |
DonP |
Jul-05-06 04:36 PM |
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Ok. |
LWolf |
Jul-03-06 06:45 PM |
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Let me elaborate. |
Spica |
Jul-05-06 12:48 PM |
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oh lookie, I finally found it |
iverglas |
Jul-05-06 06:34 PM |
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Thank you for the reference. |
Spica |
Jul-05-06 07:41 PM |
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Wow.... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-25-06 04:29 AM |
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now now, people come here seeking answers |
Wickerman |
Jul-05-06 08:16 PM |
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Grade A sophistry |
Nabeshin |
Jul-06-06 04:20 AM |
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bears repeating |
iverglas |
Jul-06-06 07:46 AM |
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Fine, here's one off the top of my head |
Spica |
Jul-06-06 12:10 PM |
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don't hold you breath waiting for a response |
crankybubba |
Jul-06-06 12:30 PM |
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why is it? |
iverglas |
Jul-06-06 01:06 PM |
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peeing dogs aside... |
crankybubba |
Jul-06-06 02:41 PM |
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Shoulda, woulda, coulda... |
Spica |
Jul-06-06 02:56 PM |
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Again, thank you |
Spica |
Jul-06-06 03:42 PM |
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hey, I played your stupid party game, chum |
iverglas |
Jul-06-06 04:05 PM |
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Impact of Brady Law |
pat0704 |
Jul-07-06 09:38 PM |
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Gun owners generally don't oppose the background check requirement... |
benEzra |
Jul-12-06 08:08 AM |
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Jul-11-06 10:34 PM |
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Although the question makes logical sense, it's disingenuous... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-25-06 04:09 AM |
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Oo! Oo! Yet another way to look at it....(how exciting this all is!) |
Pert_UK |
Jul-25-06 09:41 AM |
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Ask Paul Martin |
Speaker |
Jul-27-06 06:18 AM |
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