| -SAN FRANCISCO MEASURES: Voters take stand against guns, recruiting at sch |
Bloodblister Bob |
Nov-09-05 08:20 AM |
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Yea, people giving away their rights! |
Vickers |
Nov-09-05 08:23 AM |
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Funny, our "pro gun democrats" |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:42 AM |
#26 |
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People rarely recognize when they are giving it all away |
Vickers |
Nov-09-05 10:46 AM |
#29 |
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Meanwhile, I doubt |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:48 AM |
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What I don't understand is, why do you need a gun if you have |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 03:14 PM |
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Need has nothing to do with what people can and cannot own |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 05:56 PM |
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It's good for society as a whole |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 06:42 PM |
#117 |
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Guns are used for good purposes as well as for neutral and bad ones |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 06:53 PM |
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Let me clarify... |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 07:05 PM |
#135 |
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Oh, so you want the state to have all the power |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 08:30 PM |
#185 |
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oh, so you want to talk nonsense |
iverglas |
Nov-10-05 03:01 AM |
#238 |
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It shouldn't, slack master, definitely. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:33 PM |
#155 |
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For a better society, the needs of the many are more important |
billbuckhead |
Nov-09-05 10:27 PM |
#230 |
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Because some people have to make up for other, er, shortcomings... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:24 PM |
#100 |
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A gun saved my wifes |
gaugebuyer |
Nov-09-05 12:58 PM |
#44 |
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I believe you... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:17 PM |
#94 |
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Welcome to DU |
Sgent |
Nov-09-05 06:30 PM |
#105 |
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Whatever.... |
DoggieBag |
Nov-09-05 01:57 PM |
#48 |
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Like I said... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:20 PM |
#97 |
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Agreed. Absurd. This is the LAST time you want to be turning in your guns. |
Kralizec |
Nov-09-05 08:23 AM |
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and the redneck nazis say "Excellent" |
400Years |
Nov-09-05 08:24 AM |
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Bloodblister Bob please edit your subject line |
maddezmom |
Nov-09-05 08:29 AM |
#4 |
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Sure, you can have my handgun |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Nov-09-05 08:31 AM |
#5 |
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They just created thousands of new "criminals" in SF |
Bloodblister Bob |
Nov-09-05 08:38 AM |
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That's why I don't live in SF |
saigon68 |
Nov-09-05 08:43 AM |
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And how else will they stop the looting |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 09:18 AM |
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It's always instructive to see |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:47 AM |
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David Koresh was a Martyr |
Sandpiper |
Nov-09-05 11:30 AM |
#35 |
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Careful, he's the gun nuts' little tin god... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:15 PM |
#92 |
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Crispy Cremes are a lethal weapon! |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-05 03:26 AM |
#240 |
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I'm all for arming bears. |
superconnected |
Nov-09-05 03:33 PM |
#65 |
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In San Francisco |
Ayesha |
Nov-09-05 05:24 PM |
#73 |
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Good line Mike Ege ""It's not a solution (to gun violence)," |
gordianot |
Nov-09-05 08:36 AM |
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So what is Mike's solution to gun violence, do you suppose... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:39 AM |
#24 |
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Who with any brains is actually going to turn in their weapons to the poli |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 08:37 AM |
#7 |
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Looks like the good citizens in San Francisco, including this one, |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 08:43 AM |
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I agree |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 09:12 AM |
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Except of course for the police |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 09:29 AM |
#15 |
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Precisely. We know our own guns can be as lethal as anyone's guns |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 02:59 PM |
#54 |
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The government has a good start . . . |
toopers |
Nov-09-05 12:08 PM |
#38 |
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Even more of a "good" start... |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 05:45 PM |
#77 |
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Remember.. |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:22 PM |
#181 |
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You should read up on California history |
slackmaster |
Nov-10-05 09:08 AM |
#248 |
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No handguns, so what! |
michreject |
Nov-09-05 08:39 AM |
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They can take my hand gun away |
symbolman |
Nov-09-05 09:21 AM |
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"next little kids will be turning in their parents" |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 09:34 AM |
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on banning handguns |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-09-05 09:33 AM |
#16 |
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as long as |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 09:37 AM |
#18 |
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It will indeed make San Francisco safer -- for thugs. |
Bloodblister Bob |
Nov-09-05 10:09 AM |
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And until then the handgun toting imbeciles of SF have made the city |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:43 AM |
#27 |
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But Bench, don't you know |
Sandpiper |
Nov-09-05 11:27 AM |
#34 |
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Well of course.... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:16 PM |
#93 |
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Good thing there's that wall around San Francisco.... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:40 AM |
#25 |
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Actually, we're still working on the wall, Mr. Benchley. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 03:01 PM |
#56 |
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LOL! |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:24 PM |
#101 |
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Are you willing to be one of the statistics? |
toopers |
Nov-09-05 12:05 PM |
#37 |
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sure, why not? |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-09-05 12:25 PM |
#40 |
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Hasn't a handgun ban been in effect in Chi and DC for YEARS? |
jtb33 |
Nov-09-05 12:34 PM |
#41 |
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And they remain popular with those cities' inhabitants too, for |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:26 PM |
#103 |
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We have had the laboritories |
AngryAmish |
Nov-09-05 01:41 PM |
#47 |
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the next NRA meme |
Romulus |
Nov-09-05 10:29 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-09-05 10:45 AM |
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The handgun ban will be thrown out in court. |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 10:36 AM |
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You may be right. And in the meantime, every gun owner |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 03:03 PM |
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They tried the same thing in 1982. |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 03:25 PM |
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Sure. And in the meantime, people thought and talked about it. nt |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 03:30 PM |
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Case law has changed since then? (nt) |
rinsd |
Nov-09-05 05:25 PM |
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I've no idea. But, how much can it hurt to have a community |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 05:32 PM |
#76 |
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When you say only police and authorized security personnel may have them.. |
rinsd |
Nov-09-05 05:45 PM |
#78 |
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But, I didn't say that. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 05:51 PM |
#80 |
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I'm sorry.... |
rinsd |
Nov-09-05 06:03 PM |
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Thanks. And, you may be right. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:15 PM |
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In the long run it will probably cause a surge in handgun sales |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 05:46 PM |
#79 |
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A lot has changed since 1982 |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:02 PM |
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A "solidly liberal state" that elected Arnold Schwarzenegger??? |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 08:31 PM |
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Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Proto-Typical RINO |
YankeeFan |
Nov-09-05 09:40 PM |
#212 |
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handgun ban will be thrown out |
Milspec |
Nov-09-05 09:26 PM |
#208 |
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Yea, I don't think making handguns illegal is such a good thing either. |
Dark |
Nov-09-05 10:37 AM |
#22 |
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Nope, remember your history, or Germany's history. |
Sequoia |
Nov-09-05 11:12 AM |
#32 |
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In more recent times. |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 11:25 AM |
#33 |
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Every humhole with a swastika today spouts that "gun rights" gibberish |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:28 PM |
#104 |
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Bravo MrBenchley |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:07 PM |
#173 |
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Good for San Francisco! |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:37 AM |
#23 |
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Unfortunately, I have had several jobs . . . |
toopers |
Nov-09-05 12:13 PM |
#39 |
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Sadly that's the real problem... |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 01:15 PM |
#45 |
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Well that IS rich.... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:40 PM |
#115 |
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I believe you...thousands wouldn't... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:37 PM |
#111 |
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.Another |
TMAS |
Nov-09-05 03:39 PM |
#68 |
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Gee, we had gun "enthusaists" cheering as they pissed away our right |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:43 PM |
#118 |
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Yea , I know your mantra |
TMAS |
Nov-09-05 07:27 PM |
#151 |
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And the gun nuts wet dream |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:15 PM |
#178 |
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You are too funny |
TMAS |
Nov-09-05 08:41 PM |
#192 |
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Well,no Nazis have taken over Canada. |
Swede |
Nov-09-05 11:43 AM |
#36 |
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well we're just sheep |
iverglas |
Nov-09-05 11:06 PM |
#231 |
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Yeah, but you still think butter is a spice! |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-05 03:22 AM |
#239 |
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I prefer the Chris Rock solution |
0rganism |
Nov-09-05 12:40 PM |
#42 |
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LOL! Exactly. I love that bit. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 03:11 PM |
#60 |
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While I think shotguns are better for home defense... |
Endangered Specie |
Nov-09-05 12:43 PM |
#43 |
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Bury them in the back yard |
whatever4 |
Nov-09-05 01:17 PM |
#46 |
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Oh... Noooo... The Gun Industry Is Going to Fall Apart |
maximovich |
Nov-09-05 02:26 PM |
#49 |
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Gun-grabbing liberals? |
JackieO |
Nov-09-05 02:27 PM |
#50 |
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when martial law comes down |
Sven77 |
Nov-09-05 02:30 PM |
#51 |
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seems not too hard in France (though it is in the EU) |
Romulus |
Nov-09-05 02:41 PM |
#52 |
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Let's all watch Red Dawn again! |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:06 PM |
#137 |
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Don't forget |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 07:10 PM |
#142 |
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LOL! That's right! We're 'Muricans. Rough and tough and ready to scrap! |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:15 PM |
#145 |
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Too Bad |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 02:49 PM |
#53 |
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The laws are too vague |
mandingo |
Nov-09-05 03:06 PM |
#58 |
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Don't think that can't happen. |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 03:16 PM |
#62 |
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This is crazy |
saigon68 |
Nov-09-05 03:36 PM |
#66 |
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Or folks that don't want to be murdered with the very weapons |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:05 PM |
#87 |
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Guns done belong in a civilized society |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 06:23 PM |
#99 |
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I hate to burst your bubble, but... |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 06:45 PM |
#120 |
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Why do you think were uncivilized |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 06:53 PM |
#126 |
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Excellent Point |
stepnw1f |
Nov-09-05 07:01 PM |
#132 |
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What is a 15 Year Old Doing Out That Late? |
YankeeFan |
Nov-09-05 07:59 PM |
#169 |
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Oh please... |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:32 PM |
#187 |
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Excellent post |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 06:48 PM |
#123 |
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Second Amendment Foundation has already filed a lawsuit to block this BS |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 03:00 PM |
#55 |
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Even the Brady Campaign had enough sense to stay away from the issue. |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 03:48 PM |
#71 |
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And what a swell bunch the Second Amendment Foundation are too... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:33 PM |
#108 |
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Yes, they're scumbags |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 06:55 PM |
#127 |
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Jeeze, slack, and yet you trotted them out like they weren't.... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 07:07 PM |
#139 |
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They're absolutely right that the SF gun ban is unconstitutional |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 08:33 PM |
#188 |
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Is That Why There Still is a Ban in DC |
stepnw1f |
Nov-09-05 09:44 PM |
#214 |
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California state Constitution does not apply in DC or Chicago |
slackmaster |
Nov-10-05 08:47 AM |
#242 |
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And they're a right wing puddle of pus.... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 10:14 PM |
#226 |
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Extend an olive branch to some people and what do you get? |
slackmaster |
Nov-10-05 08:47 AM |
#243 |
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Wish I lived in San Francisco. |
Robeson |
Nov-09-05 03:08 PM |
#59 |
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Me too. |
superconnected |
Nov-09-05 03:38 PM |
#67 |
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Sorry bud but you cant take away rights with a vote... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Nov-09-05 03:25 PM |
#63 |
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Sure you can |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:37 PM |
#191 |
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Not a good idea |
brentspeak |
Nov-09-05 03:40 PM |
#69 |
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I'm POSITIVE that gun crime rates will plummet!!!! |
rd_kent |
Nov-09-05 03:40 PM |
#70 |
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I am 100% Sure That Gangs... |
YankeeFan |
Nov-09-05 08:05 PM |
#171 |
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Wow. After reading this thread, I guess SF will end up with all the |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 05:21 PM |
#72 |
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Nahhhh.... |
rinsd |
Nov-09-05 05:28 PM |
#75 |
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San Francisco will end up with more privately owned handguns |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 05:54 PM |
#81 |
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I bet you a quart of Ben & Jerry's that you are wrong. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:03 PM |
#85 |
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It's a bet |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 06:05 PM |
#88 |
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Done. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:19 PM |
#96 |
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I'm not sure about sales going up.... |
rinsd |
Nov-09-05 06:05 PM |
#86 |
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The DC and Chicago bans haven't been tossed out in court |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 06:07 PM |
#89 |
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"More privately owned guns would be a benign outcome" |
rinsd |
Nov-09-05 06:09 PM |
#90 |
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Those were before my time, but I do know |
benEzra |
Nov-10-05 09:06 AM |
#247 |
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Welcome to the End of the World |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:02 PM |
#83 |
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LOL... Hell, I'm just an old ignorant Alabama redneck... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 06:21 PM |
#98 |
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Or a driver's license or a beer or a kid! |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:25 PM |
#102 |
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"old ignorant Alabama redneck"? I knew it all along! |
jody |
Nov-09-05 06:32 PM |
#106 |
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Bravo S.F.! |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 06:33 PM |
#107 |
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CA Constitution says people have inalienable right to defend life. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 06:18 PM |
#95 |
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Begs the question: |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:33 PM |
#109 |
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In fact... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:35 PM |
#110 |
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Exactly. Give me a big dog. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:39 PM |
#114 |
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You'll notice none of the people |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 06:45 PM |
#122 |
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I don't know if it's a Rambo complex or what... Do |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 06:56 PM |
#128 |
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The entire case for this rubbish |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 07:05 PM |
#136 |
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Worse, that they think so little in terms of their own real safety. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:16 PM |
#146 |
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0r, big dogs |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:58 PM |
#130 |
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Or better streetlights... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 07:03 PM |
#134 |
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My girl is big and scary looking + steel collar. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:06 PM |
#138 |
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Exactly so... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-09-05 07:08 PM |
#140 |
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My god, that's my Rose! (Pic from 5 months ago) |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:08 PM |
#141 |
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Look at those feet! |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-05 02:24 AM |
#234 |
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Your choice, your decision. |
D__S |
Nov-09-05 06:59 PM |
#131 |
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I agree. It's not my place to make judgments for *anyone*. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:03 PM |
#133 |
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SCOTUS has said government is not obligated to protect an individual |
jody |
Nov-09-05 06:38 PM |
#113 |
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"The most effective, efficient tool for self defense" |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:41 PM |
#116 |
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I have and that's why I have a CCW permit. n/t |
jody |
Nov-09-05 06:45 PM |
#121 |
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Really? Well, that's remarkable. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 06:56 PM |
#129 |
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Why do you want to impose your personal beliefs on law-abiding citizens? |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:14 PM |
#144 |
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Where have I done anything in this thread that even faintly |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:28 PM |
#152 |
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A "Law abiding citizen" would either give up his pistole or move into |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:40 PM |
#158 |
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Most states require training for a CCW permit. Browse the database |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:11 PM |
#175 |
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So what's to stop the psychotic Koresh wannabee from ignoring |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:15 PM |
#177 |
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What's to stop you from taking your car and driving through a crowd? |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:29 PM |
#183 |
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At least I have to take a driving test.... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:17 PM |
#204 |
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As you said, a test is a moot point. n/t |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:28 PM |
#209 |
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When the hell did I say a test is a moot point? |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:52 PM |
#220 |
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You said "So what's to stop the psychotic Koresh wannabee from ignoring |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:58 PM |
#222 |
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The officer I talked to at our sheriff's office |
benEzra |
Nov-10-05 09:10 AM |
#249 |
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Pure straw... It leaves your mini14's, deer rifles, shotguns, tasers, |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 06:37 PM |
#112 |
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What part is straw, the CA constitution I quoted? Handguns are the choice |
jody |
Nov-09-05 06:44 PM |
#119 |
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Your quote does not mention firearms at all. "Gun grabbing cretins?" |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 06:49 PM |
#124 |
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Which quote do you mean, the CA constitution? What tools do you |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:11 PM |
#143 |
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Jody, in all sincerity, in what situation would you be safer with a gun? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:18 PM |
#147 |
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I could list many but I'll just give you one. An intruder attempted to |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:32 PM |
#154 |
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I'm sorry to seem or be stupid, but how do we get to the fact |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:36 PM |
#157 |
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Experience of people who use arms for self defense. Given a choice |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:55 PM |
#168 |
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I'd like to see a source. Thanks. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-05 02:27 AM |
#235 |
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The constitution quote... And personally, I think that the LEO's should |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:23 PM |
#150 |
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Why should LEOs be better armed when they are not obligated to |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:35 PM |
#156 |
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If you have to ask that question, I give up. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:43 PM |
#160 |
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If you can't answer my question, that's really bizarre. Are you ignoring |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:48 PM |
#164 |
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O cuz DC & Chicago are some of the safest places you can visit? |
GHOSTDANCER |
Nov-09-05 07:18 PM |
#148 |
| -
Hmm. How many good people do you know that have kept |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-05 07:19 PM |
#149 |
| -
If guns can't keep you safer, |
TMAS |
Nov-09-05 07:40 PM |
#159 |
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LOL!!!!111!! |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:45 PM |
# |
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High profile people are more likely to be targets, for one thing. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-05 02:30 AM |
#236 |
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HOLY SHIT! I just googled "gun" in the news and couldn't find a single |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:30 PM |
#153 |
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Not surprising since some perhaps most incidents where a victim |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:45 PM |
#161 |
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Don't you think there'd be one or two this week with the 34,600 |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:47 PM |
#163 |
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Not at all and the 34,600 number probably includes duplicates. n/t |
jody |
Nov-09-05 07:49 PM |
#166 |
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I'll give you that... Say half of them are dupes... That leaves 17,300 |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:53 PM |
#167 |
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Citizens using firearms to prevent crime doesn't make headlines. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:05 PM |
#172 |
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Sure, and we are going to find WMD in Iraq any day now. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:09 PM |
#174 |
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Now Tom, we both know * lied about WMD so what does that have to do with |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:14 PM |
#176 |
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That was a reply to the statement that "people protecting themselves |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:17 PM |
#179 |
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FBI stats can't deal with what is not reported. John Lott's work is |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:25 PM |
#182 |
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John Lott???? Of The American Enterprise Institute? |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:42 PM |
#193 |
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My, my you do go off on a tangent without reading. Lott is not my hero, |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:54 PM |
#197 |
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No problem... we are 4th in the world for murders by firearms... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:04 PM |
#199 |
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Japan with strict firearm laws has a much higher suicide rate that the US. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:12 PM |
#201 |
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Because of the culture, Jody. Suicide has been an "acceptable" |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:15 PM |
#202 |
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I've already cited a National Academies study that concluded there |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:20 PM |
#206 |
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they admit their data is specious themselves: |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:44 PM |
#213 |
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"data is specious"? Please tell me precisely where the conclusion |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:46 PM |
#216 |
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I quote: |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:49 PM |
#218 |
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You need to read more carefully. The summary has multiple sections. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 10:02 PM |
#223 |
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Quote and link the fucking "conclusion" you are talking about. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 10:07 PM |
#224 |
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I did not make a general statement, see |
jody |
Nov-09-05 10:14 PM |
#228 |
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Quote and link the fucking "conclusion" you are talking about. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 10:08 PM |
#225 |
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you might try asking google for ... |
iverglas |
Nov-09-05 11:42 PM |
#233 |
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Well |
TMAS |
Nov-09-05 07:47 PM |
#162 |
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Hardly ever... A lot more stories about interfamilial shootings. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 07:49 PM |
#165 |
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How many stories can you cite if you google "interfamilial shootings"? |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:17 PM |
#180 |
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I googled "gun kill brother" 1080 responses.... One of the more tragic... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:29 PM |
#184 |
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Drowning is 16 times more dangerous that firearms. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:35 PM |
#189 |
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Using your source: 2000 to 2002 |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:48 PM |
#194 |
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You need to make a proper query because the numbers I gave are correct. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 08:59 PM |
#198 |
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I'm just looking at gun deaths vs. drownings. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:10 PM |
#200 |
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But you have changed the topic. You introduced an example with |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:16 PM |
#203 |
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No, you asked about familial killings. I provided an example... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:20 PM |
#205 |
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I googled but couldn't find the incident, so I assume it didn't happen. |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:23 PM |
#207 |
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Okay, the above story was googled by "huntsville killing brother" |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:36 PM |
#210 |
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Shit... Great Job Man! |
stepnw1f |
Nov-09-05 09:40 PM |
#211 |
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"gun killed brother" returned one hit. Using your logic, that's one |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:44 PM |
#215 |
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1,080 hits... here's the link. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 09:48 PM |
#217 |
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That's among the most ridiculous things you've ever posted. You |
jody |
Nov-09-05 09:55 PM |
#221 |
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Have you ever used google before? |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 10:14 PM |
#227 |
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You really don't know how flawed your statement was based on |
jody |
Nov-09-05 10:16 PM |
#229 |
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you should also explain, maybe |
iverglas |
Nov-09-05 11:37 PM |
#232 |
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that's some guy's sermon posted on the internet |
Romulus |
Nov-10-05 08:22 AM |
#241 |
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A friend of mine defended himself with a gun on Halloween night |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-05 08:36 PM |
#190 |
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Sounds as if a 9 iron would have done the same job. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Nov-09-05 08:50 PM |
#195 |
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GOLF IS A GAME FOR VILLAGE IDIOTS! |
slackmaster |
Nov-10-05 08:56 AM |
#245 |
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maybe reality is not as Google tells it . . . |
Romulus |
Nov-10-05 08:57 AM |
#246 |
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The great people of San Francisco |
hogwyld |
Nov-09-05 08:53 PM |
#196 |
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A minority of people voted in this unconstitutional law |
slackmaster |
Nov-10-05 08:49 AM |
#244 |
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Who put this up on the ballot anyway? Police? Or was it by the people? |
Rainscents |
Nov-09-05 09:51 PM |
#219 |
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From what I understand, four members of our board of supervisors |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-05 02:32 AM |
#237 |
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YaaY! Another LBN flame-fest sent to the Dungeon! |
Romulus |
Nov-10-05 09:11 AM |
#250 |
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Locking. |
SteppingRazor |
Nov-10-05 09:18 AM |
#251 |
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Locking. |
SteppingRazor |
Nov-10-05 09:18 AM |
#252 |
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