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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #78
96. Thus,
since we have a large standing army and not a national militia, the 2nd Amendment, which very clearly states its context as a "well regulated militia," is moot.
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  -Right to Bear Arms - Protection Against Tyranny? OrdinaryTa  Sep-21-03 09:17 AM   #0 
  - It's just a saying...  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 09:20 AM   #1 
  - OK....you're going to have to explain  Superfly   Sep-21-03 10:25 AM   #20 
     - How what is absurd?  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 12:32 PM   #28 
        - That saying  Superfly   Sep-21-03 12:36 PM   #29 
           - Very absurd... and illogical...  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 12:45 PM   #30 
           - sort-of, but not really.  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 12:52 PM   #31 
              - Definitely... and really....  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 01:04 PM   #34 
              - If you're arguing we need to disarm people to prevent killing sprees...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 01:12 PM   #39 
                 - That's not what I'm arguing at all...  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 01:18 PM   #40 
                    - you're quoting KELLERMANN!?!?!?!?  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 01:21 PM   #41 
                       - Well, you're the one discrediting Kellermann...  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 01:27 PM   #42 
                       - They held congressional subcomittee hearings on it...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 06:15 PM   #55 
                          - **** YOU are seriously MISLED! ******  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 07:25 PM   #60 
                             - Heh...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 07:36 PM   #62 
                                - HEH! Funny! I HAVE his DATA SETS! And you're STILL avoiding the issue!  wyldwolf   Sep-21-03 07:47 PM   #63 
                                   - You're claiming that his COMPLETE DATA SETS...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 08:20 PM   #65 
                                   - Jeez. Benchley is right about one thing.  dirk   Sep-21-03 08:23 PM   #66 
                                      - heh...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 08:28 PM   #70 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-21-03 08:36 PM   #72 
                                         - Tut tut!  dirk   Sep-21-03 09:58 PM   #75 
                                         - try this:  DoNotRefill   Sep-22-03 12:14 AM   #79 
                                         - teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms???  iverglas   Sep-22-03 01:38 AM   #81 
                                         - Actually....  DoNotRefill   Sep-22-03 02:05 AM   #82 
                                         - can you try reading what's on your monitor?  iverglas   Sep-22-03 04:29 AM   #83 
                                      - Gun nuts have been howling about Kellerman  MrBenchley   Sep-22-03 08:15 AM   #85 
                                         - I guess the gun loons in the NRA don't have enough money to pay off...  wyldwolf   Sep-22-03 10:22 AM   #88 
                                            - Yup...  MrBenchley   Sep-22-03 10:36 AM   #90 
                       - More silliness from the RKBA crowd  MrBenchley   Sep-22-03 08:14 AM   #84 
              - Hammers don't build houses; carpenters build houses.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-21-03 02:50 PM   #45 
              - Your avatar is BUDDHA?  blondeatlast   Sep-21-03 04:41 PM   #50 
              - yup...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 08:26 PM   #69 
              - Okay, I'll buy that.  library_max   Sep-21-03 04:58 PM   #51 
           - yes, muderers do kill people, but...  dobak   Sep-21-03 06:36 PM   #58 
              - heh...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 08:25 PM   #68 
              - BAN ALL GUNS!  RoeBear   Sep-21-03 09:14 PM   #73 
  - Carried to its logical conclusion  soupkitchen   Sep-21-03 09:22 AM   #2 
  - You can get a nuclear bomb if you really want one  slackmaster   Sep-21-03 09:24 AM   #3 
  - Are you kidding?  Trek234   Sep-21-03 10:00 AM   #15 
     - No, I'm perfectly serious  slackmaster   Sep-21-03 10:11 AM   #17 
        - <sigh>  Trek234   Sep-21-03 11:28 AM   #25 
           - not even close:  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 01:00 PM   #33 
              - Oh, BTW....check out:  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 01:06 PM   #35 
              - Your own examples ruin your argument  dirk   Sep-21-03 05:27 PM   #54 
                 - sure they can.  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 06:30 PM   #56 
                    - It's not about money (at all)  dirk   Sep-21-03 07:34 PM   #61 
                       - OK...  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 08:03 PM   #64 
                          - You still haven't shown me  dirk   Sep-21-03 08:34 PM   #71 
                             - Did you see the Pantex link above?  DoNotRefill   Sep-22-03 12:18 AM   #80 
                             - Uh, ya  dirk   Sep-22-03 09:16 AM   #86 
                                - Ah.  DoNotRefill   Sep-22-03 11:37 AM   #91 
                             - Burden of proof, dirk  slackmaster   Sep-22-03 10:20 AM   #87 
                                - Actually, slackmaster  dirk   Sep-22-03 02:04 PM   #92 
  - Sigh..the old nuclear weapons Straw Man.  Fescue4u   Sep-21-03 08:24 PM   #67 
     - Nuclear Straw Man is fun!  slackmaster   Sep-22-03 10:22 AM   #89 
  - How would you prove or disprove it?  rock   Sep-21-03 09:25 AM   #4 
  - Just because it's a Right  StClone   Sep-21-03 09:34 AM   #6 
     - Of course it can be abused....  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 01:07 PM   #36 
  - By the way, it does happen here...  EagleEye   Sep-21-03 09:34 AM   #5 
  - What did a wedding ceremony tradition...  RoeBear   Sep-21-03 09:35 AM   #7 
  - Well technically...  EagleEye   Sep-21-03 09:37 AM   #8 
  - No evidence for guns bringing liberty  quaker bill   Sep-21-03 09:37 AM   #9 
  - By the way I agree with you Bill  soupkitchen   Sep-21-03 09:43 AM   #10 
  - The Patriot Act is an end-run around the 2nd Amendment  T Bone   Sep-21-03 09:45 AM   #12 
  - The Patriot Act is an end-run around the entire Bill of Rights  slackmaster   Sep-21-03 10:52 AM   #21 
  - IMHO, guns don't assure  mantis49   Sep-21-03 03:29 PM   #49 
  - No correlation  maha   Sep-21-03 09:44 AM   #11 
  - More that without firearms it's harder--much harder--to resist tyranny  Mairead   Sep-21-03 09:54 AM   #13 
  - It's easy to debate this and take the "con" POV...  BiggJawn   Sep-21-03 09:57 AM   #14 
  - The only real protection against tyranny is a free press  nuxvomica   Sep-21-03 10:04 AM   #16 
  - People with guns maybe ...  AmeriCanadian   Sep-21-03 10:14 AM   #18 
  - Oppressed people without guns have been a powerful force in history  nuxvomica   Sep-21-03 11:17 AM   #24 
     - Non-violent resistance doesn't always work  knight_of_the_star   Sep-21-03 01:11 PM   #38 
        - But violent resistance never works  library_max   Sep-21-03 05:14 PM   #53 
           - Pick a revolutionary group....  DoNotRefill   Sep-21-03 06:36 PM   #57 
              - Okay, let's see.  library_max   Sep-22-03 05:35 PM   #93 
                 - PIRA: Provisional Irish Republican Army  DoNotRefill   Sep-22-03 05:58 PM   #97 
                    - Every single one of your examples  library_max   Sep-24-03 06:22 PM   #100 
  - ain't that the truth!! And THAT's what we've lost in America  maggrwaggr   Sep-21-03 01:10 PM   #37 
  - Right to bear arms - Protection against crime  Superfly   Sep-21-03 10:24 AM   #19 
  - "Right" to bear arms = right to impose tyranny  baldguy   Sep-21-03 10:56 AM   #22 
  - In 1792....  TomNickell   Sep-21-03 11:15 AM   #23 
  - in 2003  Fescue4u   Sep-21-03 02:48 PM   #44 
  - September 11, 2001.  happyslug   Sep-21-03 10:55 PM   #77 
     - Unless you're Noah Webster  library_max   Sep-22-03 05:39 PM   #94 
  - This makes no sense...  MrPrax   Sep-21-03 12:06 PM   #26 
  - The pen IS mightier than the sword  ThoughtCriminal   Sep-21-03 12:29 PM   #27 
  - A thought on the 2nd Amendment  SOS   Sep-21-03 12:53 PM   #32 
  - Small Arms in Iraq  Fescue4u   Sep-21-03 02:42 PM   #43 
  - I know if the United States were being invaded  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-21-03 02:52 PM   #46 
  - guns are tools  ezmojason   Sep-21-03 03:14 PM   #47 
  - "People have often used them to secure freedom from oppression"  library_max   Sep-22-03 05:47 PM   #95 
  - Umm, the last wedding I attended,  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-21-03 03:25 PM   #48 
  - Most Pro-Bush gun owners would use them FOR tyranny...  Dr Fate   Sep-21-03 05:07 PM   #52 
  - pink pistols  ezmojason   Sep-21-03 06:43 PM   #59 
  - Good common sense  Procopius   Sep-21-03 09:56 PM   #74 
  - Without organization Guns are useless  happyslug   Sep-21-03 10:26 PM   #76 
     - I also forgot  happyslug   Sep-21-03 11:18 PM   #78 
        - Thus,  library_max   Sep-22-03 05:51 PM   #96 
           - Yes, and can we afford it?  happyslug   Sep-22-03 10:43 PM   #98 
           - Can one of the Rights in the Bill of Rights be "Obsolete"  happyslug   Sep-22-03 11:04 PM   #99 
           - hrmm  thetoolshed   Oct-18-03 03:46 PM   #101 
 

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