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Wed Mar-07-07 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 21. Pardon me, but I am highly amused by your misfortune... |
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Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 03:49 PM by jpak
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| -How Green Is Nuclear Power? |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 12:08 PM |
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proliferation is the show stopper |
greenman3610 |
Mar-07-07 12:16 PM |
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Note: ChimpCo is not going to bomb Iranian wind farms or rooftop solar hot water heaters |
jpak |
Mar-07-07 12:22 PM |
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I wouldn't bet on it... |
Tin Man |
Mar-07-07 07:30 PM |
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They are that, and they want the water too n/t |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 07:44 PM |
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Thank you for these links |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 12:50 PM |
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Lovins irritates the hell out of me. |
hunter |
Mar-07-07 04:01 PM |
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Let's ask Ms Chernobyl her opinion. . . |
Journeyman |
Mar-07-07 12:37 PM |
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This is an interesting twist |
imfreaky |
Mar-07-07 12:52 PM |
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Oh well, I think he is wrong |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 12:57 PM |
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He also believes that global warming is a Good Thing |
jpak |
Mar-07-07 01:40 PM |
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Ah but Moore is an asshole. |
NNadir |
Mar-07-07 01:45 PM |
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It is nuclear weapons that are murder n/t |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 02:01 PM |
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As soon as you can answer how we can guarantee, for at least 30,000 years, |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-07-07 07:30 PM |
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How many people are going to fall off towers and roofs in 30,000 years... |
hunter |
Mar-07-07 09:14 PM |
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Until you can guarantee that dangerous fossil fuel waste won't be toxic for eternity, |
NNadir |
Mar-07-07 10:03 PM |
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I seriously doubt you could that you can conceive of anything beyond my |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 01:31 AM |
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Lovins answers Patrick Moore |
greenman3610 |
Mar-07-07 02:44 PM |
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That's funny. |
hunter |
Mar-07-07 04:10 PM |
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This unkillable "all energy sources require CO2" meme is fucking ridiculous. |
phantom power |
Mar-07-07 01:20 PM |
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Ah, but we don't care about "all energy sources" |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-07-07 01:58 PM |
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What other source leaves nuclear waste? n/t |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 02:04 PM |
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You missed the point |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-07-07 02:09 PM |
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How many die from contracting cancer every year living near one? |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 07:31 PM |
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CO2 is killing this planet, not nuclear fuel. |
phantom power |
Mar-07-07 07:33 PM |
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And nuclear power produces it as well |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 07:38 PM |
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The fact you consider that a valid argument doesn't up your credibility. |
phantom power |
Mar-07-07 07:42 PM |
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Dr. Helen Caldicott is not credible? |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 07:47 PM |
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It's not about whether nuclear materials can kill people or make them sick. |
phantom power |
Mar-07-07 08:03 PM |
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ONE killed by either is too many |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 10:40 PM |
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I engage in these dialogues because silence = consent. |
phantom power |
Mar-08-07 12:04 PM |
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No, Dr. Caldicott is not credible. |
hunter |
Mar-07-07 09:16 PM |
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Why should anyone as biased as you be considered credible then? |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 10:39 PM |
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She's a relic. Aren't we all? |
hunter |
Mar-08-07 01:58 AM |
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Err, are we still talking about nuclear waste? |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-07-07 10:59 PM |
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Add up the body count from spent fuel in 2600 AD and again in 240,000 AD |
jpak |
Mar-07-07 02:18 PM |
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Believe it or not, Scientific American published a study on that. |
phantom power |
Mar-07-07 02:41 PM |
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Dammit, I just paid 8 bucks for the wrong issue. |
phantom power |
Mar-07-07 03:25 PM |
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Sorry, there is nobody available to take your call |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-07-07 03:39 PM |
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Pardon me, but I am highly amused by your misfortune... |
jpak |
Mar-07-07 03:46 PM |
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Tell you what... |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-07-07 02:56 PM |
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Thank you for speaking my mind :^) . nt |
eppur_se_muova |
Mar-07-07 02:10 PM |
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Agreed. |
Nihil |
Mar-08-07 08:15 AM |
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The bottom line to the "nuclear energy debate" is simple. It is the only viable source |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-07-07 07:40 PM |
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And that's why Bush and Cheney push it so much |
RestoreGore |
Mar-07-07 07:42 PM |
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India and China and other important nations don't care what we think. |
hunter |
Mar-08-07 12:38 PM |
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Very True...... |
IChing |
Mar-07-07 10:12 PM |
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Yeah, 'cos all 6,500,000,000 people can afford to live off-grid |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-07-07 11:05 PM |
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The nations where the majority of that 6.5 billion live do not have, nor can they afford to build |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 01:42 AM |
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What the fuck has profit got to do with it? |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 02:20 AM |
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I don't give a flying fuck about raving morons and their offensive nonsense. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 02:33 AM |
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And that's your response, is it? |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 02:48 AM |
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As I said, until you want to have an actual discussion, you have nothing to add but noise. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 03:09 AM |
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Yeah, Whatever |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 03:25 AM |
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Answer this, which is more possible for the nation of Haiti, the poorest |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 04:08 AM |
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Hmmm, I'm trying to decide which is the bigger Haitian fantasy... |
hunter |
Mar-08-07 01:39 PM |
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$18 doesn't even buy 5W |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 02:53 PM |
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Apparently, you are just not up to date on the development of |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 03:01 PM |
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We are up to date on all the latest uncommercialized prototypes. |
phantom power |
Mar-08-07 03:16 PM |
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Those thin-film PV plants are in operation or being constructed today |
jpak |
Mar-08-07 03:39 PM |
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Things are moving rapidly and commercialization is well under way. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 03:47 PM |
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I'm not going by press releases... |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 03:25 PM |
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Unisolar Ovonic is real, Nanosolar is real, Sharp is real, Honda is real, ErSol is real, etc.... |
jpak |
Mar-08-07 03:57 PM |
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And US$3.64/W is real, too. |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 04:08 PM |
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No - dissed the Dreaded Thin-film PV Press Releases |
jpak |
Mar-08-07 04:11 PM |
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Did you? where? nt |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 04:19 PM |
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Your last sentence is absolutely correct and the reasons for that are |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 04:08 PM |
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Not being an energy consortium... |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 04:36 PM |
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OK, you're obviously not interested in learning nearly as much as you're |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-08-07 05:08 PM |
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Really? |
Dead_Parrot |
Mar-08-07 06:36 PM |
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How much did your solar installation cost? |
hunter |
Mar-08-07 06:44 PM |
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What a bizarre reply. You haven't addressed one of the issues brought up, |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-09-07 02:55 AM |
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Your issues have been addressed in this thread. |
hunter |
Mar-09-07 01:11 PM |
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There is a nugget of truth in what you say ... |
Nihil |
Mar-09-07 05:39 AM |
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economic forces |
BrightKnight |
Mar-09-07 10:06 PM |
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I totally agree with you about "economic forces" ... |
Nihil |
Mar-12-07 07:28 AM |
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1,780 lbs of coal * 36,000,000 pellets in the reactors of 1 plant... |
BrightKnight |
Mar-07-07 08:53 PM |
#35 |
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