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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 07:16 PM
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18. Perhaps hunting your meat is a better answer.
Jack Kerasote in his "Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt" (Random House, 1993) makes the point that pursuing game animals, elk in his instance, can reduce the fossil fuel costs of eating both store-bought meat and vegetables, when measured in kilocalories. He estimated that the 150 pounds of elk meat he used cost "...the planet seventy-nine thousand kilocalories of fossil fuel energy." He includes the energy to produce his vehicle, gas, gun, ammo, electricity for the refrigerator, etc. He compares the caloric value of 150 pounds of elk with the caloric value of eating potatoes (near his residence) and calculates costs of "...151,000 kilocalories of fossil fuel energy." He also calculates a "...calorically equivalent amount of rice and canned pinto beans...imported a thousand miles from California 477,000 kilocalories."
We should reduce the fossil fuel costs by limiting our damage when eating. I hunt and fish locally (within 200 miles) and try to keep commercial food purchases down.
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  - Here come the Vedge Evangelists!  Pigwidgeon   Feb-02-07 06:04 PM   #1 
  - For the Dutch speakers:  Turbineguy   Feb-02-07 06:07 PM   #2 
  - I think I can catch the, uh, flavor of it. nt  eppur_se_muova   Feb-02-07 06:13 PM   #4 
  - This has been known for quite some time:  Lorien   Feb-02-07 06:07 PM   #3 
  - Read the Rifkin book years ago ... thought your link might be his org.  eppur_se_muova   Feb-02-07 06:17 PM   #5 
  - Good book  dragndust   Feb-02-07 06:48 PM   #6 
  - Did you really say "Beef is more sacred to many people than, well, living at all"?  Pigwidgeon   Feb-03-07 03:25 PM   #12 
  - If there were no cows the forage they eat would decompose  TexasProgresive   Feb-02-07 08:20 PM   #7 
  - Not quite  NickB79   Feb-03-07 01:44 PM   #9 
     - We see natural smog from methane that comes from  TexasProgresive   Feb-03-07 03:19 PM   #10 
     - Those are good points. But predator-free cattle farms and corn-based feedlots...  eppur_se_muova   Feb-03-07 05:13 PM   #15 
     - On the plains herds of bison would take 3 days to pass  TexasProgresive   Feb-03-07 06:30 PM   #17 
        - Aware of that. But domestic cattle are fed by corn from the Midwest, not just...  eppur_se_muova   Feb-05-07 10:11 AM   #21 
     - The number of livestock far outnumbers natural ruminants  NickB79   Feb-05-07 05:48 PM   #26 
     - But doesn't methane break down much more quickly?  PaulaFarrell   Feb-03-07 03:20 PM   #11 
        - Most of the biomass of prairie/grassland plants is in their roots  NickB79   Feb-05-07 05:35 PM   #25 
  - Global Warming  nono   Feb-02-07 08:20 PM   #8 
  - The main driver of CO2  BeFree   Feb-03-07 03:42 PM   #13 
  - Actually, it's coal-fired power plants. Altitude doesn't matter much...  eppur_se_muova   Feb-03-07 05:06 PM   #14 
     - Well  BeFree   Feb-03-07 05:14 PM   #16 
  - Perhaps hunting your meat is a better answer.  SteveM   Feb-03-07 07:16 PM   #18 
  - Once again blaming the cow for the feedlot's crimes.  Porcupine   Feb-04-07 03:42 AM   #19 
  - True enough. I guess "Squeezing Daisy the Cow for all she can produce" ...  eppur_se_muova   Feb-05-07 10:00 AM   #20 
     - Actually, we have free-range pigs by the tens of millions.  SteveM   Feb-05-07 03:02 PM   #22 
        - We have all you want in California. Up to 400 lbs.  Porcupine   Feb-05-07 05:01 PM   #24 
  - Yet another of the many reasons I won't eat beef.  depakid   Feb-05-07 03:34 PM   #23 

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