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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 04:01 PM
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4. Yes, but people's - especially liberals - non-scientific "truthiness" outweighs facts
It's not about what's TRUE, it's about what FEELS TRUE.

Nuclear is DANGEROUS (insert scary B-movie chord here, perhaps with a theremin over it) and thus coal and oil are far better.


The level of science and math education in this country is the fucking shits.

If it were any good, people would be able to avoid a lot more of the stupid truthiness that passes for "facts" nowadays.

Most people have no idea how power is actually generated and distributed, and sadly, most of those people couldn't give a shit to bother to find out, either. But they'll all weigh in with their opinions, and the less they understand it, the louder they seem to shout.

You are totally spot on with ill informed and intellectually lazy about conceding that one must make choices, none of which are risk free.

No risk free choices. So many people seem to think that the only way to look at the world is that there is one perfect choice and all other choices are utterly ludicrous.

And when it comes to electricity production, all choices are ludicrous, at least in part.
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  -State by state energy consumption rankings. NNadir  Dec-05-06 03:41 PM   #0 
  - Wow. The per capita rates are very telling. Looks like industry and  valerief   Dec-05-06 03:48 PM   #1 
  - Here is the energy chart showing where our energy goes and where it comes from.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 03:59 PM   #3 
     - That's fantastic! I'm also glad it's 103 exajoules - that makes the numbers  Rabrrrrrr   Dec-05-06 04:06 PM   #6 
     - 60% of energy is lost? Know what this means? Is this energy  valerief   Dec-05-06 04:14 PM   #7 
        - This the energy lost to the second law of thermodynamics.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 04:35 PM   #8 
        - The farther electricity travels  LiberalEsto   Dec-05-06 04:39 PM   #10 
           - On the other hand, on site electrical generation represents point source  NNadir   Dec-05-06 04:44 PM   #11 
              - Yes but it depends on how it's generated  LiberalEsto   Dec-05-06 04:49 PM   #12 
                 - One might ask why you don't have solar power then.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 05:09 PM   #14 
                    - Because I've been unemployed for 4 months  LiberalEsto   Dec-05-06 05:18 PM   #15 
                       - And that is the crux of the entire matter.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 05:59 PM   #16 
                          - The price will come down  LiberalEsto   Dec-05-06 08:08 PM   #19 
                             - I've been hearing that my whole adult life. I'm in my fifties.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 08:17 PM   #20 
  - Percentage of population employed by...  whoneedstickets   Dec-05-06 03:51 PM   #2 
  - Well it would seem that states with large fossil fuel mining industries do lousy.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 04:04 PM   #5 
  - Yes, but people's - especially liberals - non-scientific "truthiness" outweighs facts  Rabrrrrrr   Dec-05-06 04:01 PM   #4 
  - Building codes and age of buildings might play a big role.  eppur_se_muova   Dec-05-06 04:37 PM   #9 
  - Highly interesting. Let me be the first to recommend!  mzmolly   Dec-05-06 04:49 PM   #13 
  - Why is AL per capita @ 447.3 but FL @ 252.3, MA @ 247.6, CA @ 229.3, NY @ 219.5?  jody   Dec-05-06 06:49 PM   #17 
     - The per capita figures include all energy, including transportation.  NNadir   Dec-05-06 06:54 PM   #18 

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