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Sat Jan-31-04 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
| 17. I've rethunk it plenty of times. |
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It's just that you, personally, are unconvincing, that's all. No deaths, you say. Yeah, right. Shortened life spans from Chernobyl. OK. That's one way to put it. Yer like the media when it comes to this discussion, half fact, half slanted, and all the rest -- biased opinion.
Solar is free. Hot water and passive heating are just two ways of using it without emmissions except for the development of the tools to capture it. If you take into consideration the subsidies for other sources, especially nukes, and applied those monies to solar electric.... well, some here may get my drift.
Coal: are you claiming that it is impossible to clean up coal toxics? If that's what you are saying then one must conclude that you might be just wee bit of a hypocrit.
Air pollution: we can clean it up, and we must. Time spent doing so is, IMO, time better spent than proposing that we build massive, centrally controlled, Yucca Mountain type waste producing plants that I, for one, would not want anywhere near me. And I doubt that you, Sir, will ever convince me to think otherwise.
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jmcgowanjm |
Jan-30-04 08:41 AM |
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We're in big trouble. Solar power is free. Wind power is free. |
FloridaPat |
Jan-30-04 08:50 AM |
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Legalize hemp! |
Zhade |
Feb-28-04 08:18 PM |
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Maybe is not good enough |
mad_as_hell |
Jan-30-04 10:07 AM |
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You can find all of Simmons' remarks from Uppsala here |
jmcgowanjm |
Jan-30-04 02:30 PM |
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Revealing Statements from a Bush Insider |
jmcgowanjm |
Jan-31-04 09:25 AM |
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And the ASPO Newsletter #38 February 2004 Kuwait |
jmcgowanjm |
Jan-30-04 02:33 PM |
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Think logically |
SixShooter |
Jan-30-04 06:25 PM |
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Wind and solar are stop-gap solutions at best |
NickB79 |
Jan-31-04 12:07 AM |
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Nuclear...too cheap to meter |
BeFree |
Jan-31-04 01:23 AM |
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So we're screwed then? |
NickB79 |
Jan-31-04 03:01 AM |
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Yeah, we're gonna be hurting |
BeFree |
Jan-31-04 02:48 PM |
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Actually, I hate nukes |
NickB79 |
Feb-03-04 02:38 AM |
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The last I knew |
grower |
Feb-05-04 04:23 PM |
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You haven't been reading very much, have you? |
NNadir |
Jan-31-04 07:35 AM |
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there's going to be a lag time,NNadir. As DU's NuclearCzar |
jmcgowanjm |
Jan-31-04 09:37 AM |
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"Nuclear Czar?" How about DU Nuclear Educator? I'll take that title. |
NNadir |
Jan-31-04 03:14 PM |
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OK, you will correct me here. Can each nuke warhead be a powerplant? |
jmcgowanjm |
Jan-31-04 07:51 PM |
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I'm not sure I understand the question about the warhead. |
NNadir |
Jan-31-04 09:14 PM |
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thanx NNadir, what I needed. So warheads are not good enough |
jmcgowanjm |
Feb-01-04 09:58 AM |
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Nuclear power already produces 20% of our electricity. |
NNadir |
Feb-01-04 03:03 PM |
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If you significantly increase the U.S. share of nuclear power |
cprise |
Feb-10-04 06:20 PM |
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There are 29 countries operating nuclear power plants, including Mexico. |
NNadir |
Feb-14-04 01:32 PM |
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Nuke weapons are proliferating nonetheless |
cprise |
Feb-17-04 02:29 AM |
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Really? How many new nuclear powers were there in the last 2 decades |
NNadir |
Feb-17-04 03:47 AM |
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'There Is No Alternative' |
cprise |
Feb-17-04 01:44 PM |
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Well I would feel better about if these alledged alternatives |
NNadir |
Feb-17-04 02:42 PM |
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TINA = A famous Thatcher-ism |
cprise |
Feb-17-04 10:26 PM |
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Wind is cheaper in some places, until you have to store the energy. |
NNadir |
Feb-19-04 04:17 AM |
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ok, since you've volunteered to be our nuclear educator |
treepig |
Feb-01-04 11:10 AM |
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The Candu Reactor |
NNadir |
Feb-01-04 02:48 PM |
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thank you muchly!! |
treepig |
Feb-02-04 09:57 AM |
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Your welcome. |
NNadir |
Feb-03-04 09:29 AM |
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recently, i've been saving interesting posts (like yours) to WORD files |
treepig |
Feb-04-04 07:15 AM |
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Bernard L. Cohen |
NNadir |
Feb-08-04 01:30 PM |
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so, when the yucca mountain repository is open |
treepig |
Feb-10-04 08:55 AM |
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Actually, I'm kind of hoping Yucca Mountain doesn't open or if it does |
NNadir |
Feb-10-04 11:08 AM |
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Pardon me, but having hot fuel rods sitting 1/2 mi from L. Erie is bad |
SpikeTrees |
Feb-12-04 12:48 PM |
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This is a "could happen" argument as opposed to an "is happening" argument |
NNadir |
Feb-12-04 01:57 PM |
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When are you coming to pick it up? |
SpikeTrees |
Feb-12-04 04:12 PM |
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Someone will pick it up. What about the Mercury in my soil? |
NNadir |
Feb-13-04 07:59 AM |
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French Public's Opposition to Nuclear Waste Repositories |
Bdog |
Feb-28-04 09:34 AM |
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Finding a location for a dump is one of the biggest hurdles. |
Bdog |
Feb-28-04 09:47 AM |
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Do you have any supporting data to back up your claims? |
Bdog |
Feb-28-04 09:49 AM |
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The subject of nuclear transmutation has been exhaustively covered. |
NNadir |
Feb-29-04 01:55 PM |
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Ahead of the curve-3 articles here |
jmcgowanjm |
Feb-03-04 06:48 AM |
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I think we're going to have to spend many many many more billions |
NNadir |
Feb-03-04 09:22 AM |
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but that's just it NNadir, Canda's balking on $11B |
jmcgowanjm |
Feb-04-04 07:31 AM |
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Been reading a little at a time, for a lot of years |
BeFree |
Jan-31-04 03:11 PM |
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Really. solar Energy is free? Too cheap to meter? |
NNadir |
Jan-31-04 03:38 PM |
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I've rethunk it plenty of times. |
BeFree |
Jan-31-04 04:17 PM |
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I'm sure you are impossible to convince of truth, sir. |
NNadir |
Jan-31-04 08:35 PM |
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Hey Nuke Czar |
BeFree |
Jan-31-04 09:15 PM |
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Hey BeFree |
NNadir |
Jan-31-04 11:07 PM |
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See ya, nuke czar |
BeFree |
Jan-31-04 11:15 PM |
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Bye BeFree |
NNadir |
Feb-01-04 08:19 AM |
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Solar and Wind are technologies that generate far more power |
cprise |
Feb-04-04 06:41 PM |
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I support solar energy, but you're missing data here. |
NNadir |
Feb-04-04 08:16 PM |
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The sun is on the menu |
cprise |
Feb-05-04 01:02 AM |
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How is that people in Bangladesh can afford PV when people in the US |
NNadir |
Feb-06-04 11:12 PM |
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Why should a home owner store solar power when there is no need to? |
Bdog |
Feb-27-04 10:08 AM |
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I'm just guessing here, but could it involve burning coal at night? |
NNadir |
Feb-27-04 12:54 PM |
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Your silly…Who says renew-ables have to replace fossil fuel 100%? |
Bdog |
Feb-27-04 02:51 PM |
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People in undeveloped rural areas often have zero electricity |
cprise |
Feb-27-04 03:38 PM |
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Yes, I agree. |
Bdog |
Feb-27-04 04:08 PM |
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Nuclear power does NOT address the problem of peak oil |
happyslug |
Feb-25-04 12:58 PM |
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Efficiency standards and conservation could help meet that 50% shortfall |
SpikeTrees |
Jan-31-04 08:58 AM |
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Exactly |
BeFree |
Feb-02-04 12:19 PM |
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Yes, this is a good way to ease into the crunch |
NickB79 |
Feb-03-04 02:08 AM |
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Sooner or later |
BeFree |
Feb-03-04 09:18 AM |
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i'd be much obliged if you'd point me in the direction of free solar energ |
treepig |
Feb-03-04 09:35 AM |
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Let me know if it's delivered. |
NNadir |
Feb-03-04 10:04 AM |
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The source is free |
BeFree |
Feb-03-04 11:13 PM |
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So you have these free solar converters/and storage systems available? |
NNadir |
Feb-04-04 07:12 AM |
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Why should a home owner store solar power when there is no need to? |
Bdog |
Feb-27-04 10:49 AM |
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there was a good thread on the costs of installing a solar energy |
treepig |
Feb-04-04 07:26 AM |
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Biodiesel alone could meet upto 1/3 of today's demand |
cprise |
Feb-04-04 12:53 AM |
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could you link these energy sources please cprise? |
jmcgowanjm |
Feb-05-04 09:44 AM |
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Thank you SO much for advancing this topic. |
TennesseeWalker |
Feb-08-04 02:36 PM |
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Here are a couple |
cprise |
Feb-09-04 01:05 PM |
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I am stunned... |
hunter |
Feb-10-04 12:09 PM |
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This is an idea proposed in New Hampshire by people who haven't a clue |
NNadir |
Feb-10-04 04:14 PM |
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Proposed by Californians and Floridians, apparently... |
cprise |
Feb-10-04 06:05 PM |
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Nobody cares about energy provincialism until it's in their backyard. |
NNadir |
Feb-10-04 06:56 PM |
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Yep, nuclear reactors near metro areas are a great sell to the NIMBY crowd |
cprise |
Feb-17-04 02:20 AM |
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Actually the folks around here at Oyster Creek were worried the reactor |
NNadir |
Feb-17-04 04:33 AM |
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smelly plants? |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-18-04 07:49 AM |
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I have not said, "panacea." I have used the words "risk minimized" |
NNadir |
Feb-18-04 01:25 PM |
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There is no argument for an exclusively bio-fuel economy |
cprise |
Feb-18-04 07:15 PM |
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I sympathize with you. |
NNadir |
Feb-18-04 08:30 PM |
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India and China's problems stem from overpopulation |
cprise |
Feb-19-04 12:26 AM |
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Um, the planet has energy problems owing to overpopulation. |
NNadir |
Feb-19-04 04:59 AM |
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Enter subject here |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-19-04 09:27 AM |
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Um, the reaction in Fischer Tropsch syntheses need not use natural gas. |
NNadir |
Feb-20-04 06:57 PM |
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Subject |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-25-04 10:01 AM |
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OK |
NNadir |
Feb-26-04 10:16 PM |
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Great thought provoking post |
JetCityLiberal |
Feb-29-04 01:09 AM |
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Maybe you should get used to the smog |
cprise |
Feb-19-04 11:43 PM |
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According to this Abstract from Environmental Science Technology |
NNadir |
Feb-20-04 06:41 PM |
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emissions |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-25-04 10:22 AM |
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And I can provide many showing it increases NOx |
NNadir |
Feb-25-04 03:58 PM |
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New Biodiesel Blend Reduces Particulates and NOx |
Bdog |
Feb-25-04 10:58 PM |
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DOE Biodiesel Emissions Testing Results |
Bdog |
Feb-25-04 11:24 PM |
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The reference to cancer is outlandish |
cprise |
Feb-26-04 12:39 AM |
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There is a huge difference between refereed journals and promotional |
NNadir |
Feb-26-04 02:24 PM |
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You're welcome to focus on the EPA and Harvard studies |
cprise |
Feb-27-04 04:21 PM |
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erg |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-19-04 08:57 AM |
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Missed your reply. |
NNadir |
Feb-21-04 12:15 PM |
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re: erg, etc. |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-25-04 09:52 AM |
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I think you're wiggling still. |
NNadir |
Feb-25-04 01:01 PM |
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I take the threat of Al Queda seriously |
cprise |
Feb-26-04 01:19 AM |
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Well, I think we're past the point of reason here. |
NNadir |
Feb-26-04 08:35 AM |
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insurance companies will not touch the nuclear power industry |
Bdog |
Feb-26-04 05:56 AM |
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Insurance companies, the source of all wisdom and balance. |
NNadir |
Feb-26-04 08:49 AM |
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Your post is meaningless and silly |
Bdog |
Feb-26-04 05:32 PM |
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To each his own. I rather think I was responding in kind. |
NNadir |
Feb-26-04 09:25 PM |
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Clueless in New Hampshire? |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-18-04 07:35 AM |
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perhaps you could clarify? |
treepig |
Feb-18-04 08:23 AM |
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i'm still awaiting the incorporation of land costs into your model |
treepig |
Feb-21-04 08:33 AM |
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algae |
Mike Briggs |
Feb-25-04 10:25 AM |
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ok, thanks for the reply and good luck! |
treepig |
Feb-25-04 02:13 PM |
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Thanks. Here is some explanation: |
cprise |
Feb-26-04 03:01 AM |
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Pumping water into ponds |
cprise |
Feb-10-04 05:15 PM |
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Here you go, a pilot project... |
hunter |
Feb-10-04 06:25 PM |
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Um, the Owens lake has no water in it. n/t |
NNadir |
Feb-10-04 07:10 PM |
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It used to have water... |
hunter |
Feb-10-04 10:27 PM |
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Actually... it uses the Sonora mostly as an example and start up |
mouse7 |
May-19-04 07:35 PM |
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Let energy costs reflect their true production costs. |
Bdog |
Feb-25-04 01:16 PM |
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getting back to the original topic |
treepig |
Feb-26-04 08:58 AM |
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Plenty of spent oil fields to check, probably a local phenomena |
Bdog |
Feb-26-04 10:57 AM |
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ah yes, the old slant drilling scheme |
treepig |
Feb-26-04 01:14 PM |
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Oil Window |
fedsron2us |
Feb-26-04 04:17 PM |
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Biofuels from Switchgrass: Greener Energy Pastures |
Bdog |
Feb-26-04 04:56 PM |
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270,000 flex-fuel "green" vehicles expected to be sold in Brazil |
Bdog |
Feb-28-04 01:49 PM |
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Orasco, S.P. Operating a distillery producing FUEL-ETHANOL |
Bdog |
Feb-28-04 02:05 PM |
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free translation! |
historian |
Mar-01-04 02:23 PM |
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It’s a good thing they quit subsidiesing a failed system |
Bdog |
Mar-01-04 11:08 PM |
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Yes |
gamemasterG |
Mar-01-04 11:48 AM |
#134 |
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not at all |
historian |
Mar-01-04 02:18 PM |
#135 |
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