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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 02:14 PM
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3. If you can't refuel an Aircraft Carrier with Solar, it won't fly.
but the Oil it saves will be used to power the Empire's War Machine.
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  -Solar has hit grid parity... Bob Wallace  Dec-07-11 01:43 PM   #0 
  - Has does one calculate the annual cost of maintaining access to ME oil?  Old and In the Way   Dec-07-11 01:52 PM   #1 
  - A whole 'nother can of worms.  DCKit   Dec-07-11 01:59 PM   #2 
  - Agreed...  Bob Wallace   Dec-07-11 02:21 PM   #4 
  - I concur...and welcome aboard!  Old and In the Way   Dec-07-11 03:47 PM   #7 
  - +1 Agreed  txlibdem   Dec-07-11 05:53 PM   #9 
  - If you can't refuel an Aircraft Carrier with Solar, it won't fly.  formercia   Dec-07-11 02:14 PM   #3 
  - If we can end the wars for oil...  Bob Wallace   Dec-07-11 02:25 PM   #5 
     - Our carriers will see plenty of use even if we never need another drop of oil.  JoeyT   Dec-07-11 09:46 PM   #14 
  - Let me add...  Bob Wallace   Dec-07-11 02:39 PM   #6 
  - And that probably assumes that solar technology remains static 30 years from now.  Old and In the Way   Dec-07-11 03:51 PM   #8 
     - The laws of Physics tell us some fundamental limits to solar  PamW   Dec-07-11 06:28 PM   #10 
        - and the the Laws 'o Physics limits the thermal efficiency of nuclear plants to ~30%  jpak   Dec-07-11 06:40 PM   #12 
        - WRONG!!!  PamW   Dec-08-11 09:10 AM   #18 
           - Only someone who wishes to distort the argument...  Bob Wallace   Dec-08-11 02:51 PM   #26 
           - Sorry... there's no way that solar with storage would be cheaper.  FBaggins   Dec-08-11 02:55 PM   #27 
              - Give me some numbers...  Bob Wallace   Dec-08-11 03:55 PM   #29 
                 - Just to add, solar panels generate power even on overcast days.  diane in sf   Dec-08-11 07:42 PM   #34 
                    - Got data?  Bob Wallace   Dec-08-11 07:46 PM   #35 
                       - Depends on what you mean by "work better"  caraher   Dec-08-11 10:03 PM   #38 
                       - Could be...  Bob Wallace   Dec-09-11 12:19 AM   #40 
                       - Direct and diffuse light in a cloudy climate like Pittsburgh  Kolesar   Dec-09-11 05:02 AM   #41 
           - WRONG!!!111 The thermal efficiency of commerical light water nuclear plants is ~30%  jpak   Dec-09-11 09:48 AM   #45 
        - The laws of physics, so far...  Bob Wallace   Dec-07-11 11:41 PM   #15 
        - WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!  PamW   Dec-08-11 09:19 AM   #19 
        - Pam, who give a flying (you know what)?  Bob Wallace   Dec-08-11 11:21 AM   #22 
        - A whole lot of us just *can't* get on board your NATURAL GAS bandwagon  txlibdem   Dec-09-11 07:53 AM   #42 
           - You so misread me...  Bob Wallace   Dec-09-11 11:07 AM   #46 
              - "I've got no natural gas bandwagon" then write 4 paragraphs of pro-natural gas talking points  txlibdem   Dec-10-11 07:25 AM   #52 
                 - Ah, I get it...  Bob Wallace   Dec-10-11 10:24 AM   #53 
                    - 4 paragraphs is an awful lot of "objectivity" pro natural gas in my opinion  txlibdem   Dec-10-11 07:33 PM   #54 
                       - OK...  Bob Wallace   Dec-10-11 07:49 PM   #55 
                          - You forgot NOX pollution but that's still a good list  txlibdem   Dec-10-11 11:11 PM   #56 
                             - Do you understand...  Bob Wallace   Dec-10-11 11:39 PM   #57 
                                - 2050  txlibdem   Dec-11-11 06:27 PM   #58 
        - Fine. So I will put an extra set of PV panels on my garage to compliment the PVs on my house  Kolesar   Dec-08-11 03:47 PM   #28 
        - Money yes, efficiency no  caraher   Dec-08-11 09:55 AM   #20 
           - Good summary  PamW   Dec-08-11 09:57 AM   #21 
           - Wha?  Bob Wallace   Dec-08-11 11:23 AM   #23 
           - I was just putting a generous cap on the "golly gee, the sky's the limit" talk  caraher   Dec-08-11 04:39 PM   #30 
           - Do you remember "the sound barrier"?  kristopher   Dec-08-11 05:11 PM   #31 
              - The sound "barrier" was only an engineering barrier  PamW   Dec-08-11 06:48 PM   #33 
                 - The only "fail" is your reading comprehension, Pam.  kristopher   Dec-08-11 08:12 PM   #36 
                    - That's pretty cool  caraher   Dec-08-11 10:01 PM   #37 
        - I can't argue on the sceince of technology efficiency improvements.  Old and In the Way   Dec-08-11 02:30 PM   #24 
  - WRONG - solar is is too expensive to compete with too-cheap-to-meter nuclear power  jpak   Dec-07-11 06:38 PM   #11 
  - Nice! Grid parity for huge solar farms means that residential can't be too far behind  txlibdem   Dec-07-11 06:54 PM   #13 
  - Already there...  Bob Wallace   Dec-07-11 11:51 PM   #16 
     - I wish the Federal subsidy would kick in more than that, TX has no state or local subsidies  txlibdem   Dec-08-11 06:08 AM   #17 
        - Texas...  Bob Wallace   Dec-08-11 02:45 PM   #25 
        - Something you might rather not hear...  Bob Wallace   Dec-09-11 12:16 AM   #39 
           - It's a good thing that solar doesn't use much water  txlibdem   Dec-09-11 08:08 AM   #43 
              - Dry cooling...  Bob Wallace   Dec-09-11 11:11 AM   #47 
  - 30 years is a long time for Semi-conductors  One_Life_To_Give   Dec-08-11 05:22 PM   #32 
  - WRONG!  Kolesar   Dec-09-11 08:10 AM   #44 
  - Something is "WRONG" on UToob...  Bob Wallace   Dec-09-11 11:14 AM   #48 
     - It's Saturday Night Live  Kolesar   Dec-09-11 02:37 PM   #49 
        - OK that got me to watch it...  kristopher   Dec-09-11 03:15 PM   #50 
  - Solar power much cheaper to produce than most analysts realize, study finds  OKIsItJustMe   Dec-09-11 06:11 PM   #51 

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