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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 03:42 PM
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31. Uh...
...you are going to need batteries somewhere unless there are classic power stations around to take up the slack. You might have heard of these things called "night" and "winter", they are quite common - particulary up north.
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  -Solar rising with tax credits, lower costs (PV electric heating in Maine) jpak  Oct-23-11 12:03 PM   #0 
  - Promoting decentralized energy solutions delivers energy and economic security.  Old and In the Way   Oct-23-11 12:43 PM   #1 
     - Here in NE MN we have months in the winter that have nothing but  jwirr   Oct-23-11 01:10 PM   #2 
        - Does the wind blow in NE MN in the winter?  jpak   Oct-23-11 01:46 PM   #3 
           - Oh come now. Surely you know better than that.  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 02:58 PM   #4 
           - In Maine - and the northern tier - winds are strongest during the winter and at night  jpak   Oct-23-11 03:54 PM   #5 
           - "Sorry to inform you"  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:07 PM   #7 
              - Then I guess you need to be informed about PV nameplate capacity  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:13 PM   #8 
              - ??? You didn't say "while it's raining" (which also would be wrong)  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:17 PM   #9 
                 - You obviously do not understand how they work or are rated  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:18 PM   #11 
                    - Let's put it this way.  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:20 PM   #13 
                       - First of all, no one buys or installs a PV system based on a bogus "capacity factor"  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:28 PM   #14 
                          - Entirely dodging the question, eh?  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:32 PM   #16 
                             - No - you fundamentally do not understand PV systems  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:37 PM   #18 
                             - If that IS how people buy them... why don't you and I go into business together?  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:41 PM   #20 
                                - A 300 watt PV panel produces 300 watts at peak sun in MN and CA  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:46 PM   #25 
                                   - And how much peak sun does MN get on an average winter day?  FBaggins   Oct-24-11 08:05 AM   #27 
                             - He understands; he just likes to hijack positive threads about renewables...  kristopher   Oct-23-11 04:43 PM   #23 
                                - yup - but it's nice to play sometimes  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:47 PM   #26 
              - PV panels work just fine in the fog belt of San Francisco.  diane in sf   Oct-23-11 04:18 PM   #10 
                 - What is "just fine"?  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:19 PM   #12 
                    - You still don't understand - it's kilowatt hours - not bogus capacity factors that are important  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:31 PM   #15 
                       - I don't suppose you could hold to one standard at a time?  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:35 PM   #17 
                          - A PV system can be designed to produce the required amout of electricty for a home or business  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:40 PM   #19 
                             - Lol... By putting in 10-20 times as much?  FBaggins   Oct-23-11 04:41 PM   #22 
                                - Made-up numbers and grid-tied systems do not need batteries - again a fundamental misunderstanding  jpak   Oct-23-11 04:44 PM   #24 
                                   - Uh...  CJvR   Oct-24-11 03:42 PM   #31 
                                      - A renewable grid is only expected to need about 5% of capacity as storage.  kristopher   Oct-24-11 03:44 PM   #32 
           - they are talking about baseboard heaters  reggie the dog   Oct-23-11 03:59 PM   #6 
              - A "certain percentage" to be sure. The question is how big a percentage.  FBaggins   Oct-24-11 08:14 AM   #28 
           - Minnesota's wind resource could easily power the state 25X over; then you have...  kristopher   Oct-23-11 04:41 PM   #21 
              - More nonsense.  FBaggins   Oct-24-11 08:24 AM   #29 
                 - Poor Baggins, nuclear sucks and renewables work.  kristopher   Oct-24-11 03:26 PM   #30 
 

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