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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 12:58 PM
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18. Given the information in the thread above...
The fact that you would make such an obviously flawed connection in your mind is a valuable insight into the mental processes of of those who deny climate change.
Croquist:
"Maybe you can explain this to me. If white roofs would increase global warming wouldn't a lack of white ice in the Arctic reduce global warming? just wondering."
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  -Urban 'heat island' effect is only a small contributor to global warming, and white roofs don't help OKIsItJustMe  Oct-19-11 05:53 PM   #0 
  - White roofs won't decrease global warming? O RLY??  kestrel91316   Oct-19-11 06:14 PM   #1 
  - You've pointed out the limitation of this paper's results...  Viking12   Oct-19-11 06:29 PM   #2 
  - Yes. Here in AZ they've been touted as a remedy for our  marybourg   Oct-19-11 06:41 PM   #3 
  - Painting roofs white has been suggested as a method of geoengineering by increasing global albedo  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-19-11 07:38 PM   #5 
     - neither of the articles suggest the albedo increase from white roofs would have global significance  Viking12   Oct-19-11 08:05 PM   #7 
        - Seriously? They dont? Would you like something a little more explicit?  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 08:22 AM   #8 
           - Did you read the article?  Viking12   Oct-20-11 08:46 AM   #9 
              - Did you read it?  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 11:41 AM   #12 
                 - Jacobson and Ten Hoeve are showing a problem with Akbari's approach  kristopher   Oct-20-11 11:56 AM   #13 
                 - The OP also shows that painting roofs white wont help cool the planet  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 12:02 PM   #15 
                    - The Jacobson & Ten Hoeve paper IS the study in the OP  kristopher   Oct-20-11 12:27 PM   #16 
                    - ...or, more precisely, whether the scientific articles actually claimed that it would.  Viking12   Oct-20-11 01:18 PM   #20 
                       - 1/2 of 1% of Earth's non-ice surface is covered with urban surfaces  kristopher   Oct-20-11 01:59 PM   #21 
                       - Well, no, that would be less precisely  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 04:51 PM   #25 
                          - Now where I have heard this before?  Viking12   Oct-20-11 05:38 PM   #26 
                             - Others, like Akbari you mean  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 05:53 PM   #29 
                 - Kaarsberg and Akbari, 2006 COOL ROOFS COOL THE PLANET  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 12:00 PM   #14 
  - The Abstract  kristopher   Oct-19-11 07:26 PM   #4 
  - Its only a small effect when you don't live in a large city.  Fledermaus   Oct-19-11 07:59 PM   #6 
  - Skeptics have been saying this for years  The Croquist   Oct-20-11 09:35 AM   #10 
     - Yawn  Viking12   Oct-20-11 09:43 AM   #11 
        - Brilliant rebuttal there Viking12  The Croquist   Oct-20-11 12:51 PM   #17 
           - Given the information in the thread above...  kristopher   Oct-20-11 12:58 PM   #18 
           - I guess that easier then explaining a contradiction  The Croquist   Oct-20-11 03:38 PM   #22 
              - It is clearly explained above.  kristopher   Oct-20-11 03:41 PM   #23 
           - I could explain it to you but you wouldn't understand.  Viking12   Oct-20-11 01:00 PM   #19 
              - Just like you can't understand that thermometer location isn't influencing the global temperature re  The Croquist   Oct-20-11 04:03 PM   #24 
                 - It's alive!  Viking12   Oct-20-11 05:40 PM   #27 
                 - You may find this paper helpful  OKIsItJustMe   Oct-20-11 05:45 PM   #28 
                    - Oh, snap!  GliderGuider   Oct-20-11 08:40 PM   #30 
                    - or any of these...  Viking12   Oct-20-11 08:51 PM   #31 
 

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