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Sat Sep-10-11 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #104 |
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Edited on Sat Sep-10-11 12:34 AM by Nederland
Apparently you believe you are this guy:  |
| -Will the Transition to Renewables Be Fast or Slow? |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 09:03 PM |
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it will be slow until it's critical |
ixion |
Sep-03-11 09:04 PM |
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Rocket fast. |
FBaggins |
Sep-03-11 09:17 PM |
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Renewables |
georged193 |
Sep-03-11 09:24 PM |
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McKay makes a number of invalid assumptions. |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 09:40 PM |
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+1. God bless numbers. Watts to horsepower makes things clearer. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Sep-03-11 10:03 PM |
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That is an absurd "analysis" |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 10:25 PM |
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If people can't accept the facts on the ground, we won't move forward. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Sep-03-11 11:24 PM |
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Your points really aren't worth discussion in respect to the OP |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 11:43 PM |
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"Nobody's gonna take my car, gonna take my car" |
napoleon_in_rags |
Sep-04-11 12:21 AM |
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If that's what you see as the status quo... |
kristopher |
Sep-04-11 12:36 AM |
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Well said |
Yo_Mama |
Sep-06-11 11:50 AM |
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I think a significant difference in our views... |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 07:24 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
XemaSab |
Sep-03-11 10:28 PM |
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IPCC: Renewables can supply more far energy than needed at highly competitive cost |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 10:34 PM |
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Welcome to DU. |
mahina |
Sep-03-11 10:51 PM |
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LOL - talk about Disneyland! |
bananas |
Sep-04-11 07:34 AM |
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How often can you afford to buy a new car in a recession? |
napoleon_in_rags |
Sep-03-11 09:39 PM |
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The rotation is expected to take decades. |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 09:43 PM |
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One of the best things I can do is ride a bike. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Sep-03-11 10:09 PM |
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Both. For those who can afford it will be quick and painless. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-03-11 10:44 PM |
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You've neglected the entire range of energy sources that are flexible |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 11:12 PM |
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The problem is the same, same but different problem with wave/tidal... |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-04-11 12:21 AM |
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You cannot support that view of how the system is designed |
kristopher |
Sep-04-11 12:30 AM |
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If you have... |
CJvR |
Sep-06-11 08:58 AM |
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That is looking in the wrong end of the telescope |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 09:14 PM |
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Actually... |
CJvR |
Sep-07-11 07:43 AM |
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What is your benchmark for "more" |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 08:28 AM |
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"Delivered power" |
CJvR |
Sep-08-11 10:16 AM |
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You are wrong. Your use of capacity factor is a logical error. |
kristopher |
Sep-08-11 05:44 PM |
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In what way? |
CJvR |
Sep-09-11 02:42 AM |
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That is explained in post 53 and 71 in this subthread above. |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 02:52 AM |
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Really? |
CJvR |
Sep-09-11 12:38 PM |
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Yes, really. |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 07:22 PM |
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It depends |
mahina |
Sep-03-11 10:53 PM |
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That used to be my way of thinking... |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 11:30 PM |
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Presumes a fact not in evidence. I have no hope that we will successfully |
kestrel91316 |
Sep-03-11 10:58 PM |
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What is presumed? |
kristopher |
Sep-03-11 11:15 PM |
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Unfortunately, Italy gets 90% of its primary energy from carbon. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-04-11 01:02 AM |
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Your reference to Italy isn't particulary relevant. |
kristopher |
Sep-04-11 02:02 AM |
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Neither was yours... |
GliderGuider |
Sep-04-11 03:10 AM |
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The difference is |
kristopher |
Sep-04-11 03:27 AM |
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I'll see your China and raise you a Cornyn |
GliderGuider |
Sep-04-11 04:10 AM |
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Approximately 3 months before they changed policy in 2009... |
kristopher |
Sep-04-11 08:13 AM |
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Thanks. I really hope you're right. /nt |
GliderGuider |
Sep-04-11 09:11 AM |
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Lets talk about the transition from Sail to Steam... |
happyslug |
Sep-04-11 04:11 PM |
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There's no arguing with faith |
Terry in Austin |
Sep-04-11 07:20 PM |
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Total worldwide annual energy consumption is 15 TW, global renewable potential is 86,902 TW |
txlibdem |
Sep-05-11 04:22 PM |
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Global renewable potential: 86,902 TW; Global renewable production: 0.4 TW. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 06:16 AM |
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Horsehockey |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 06:38 AM |
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Once we run out of fossil fuels we will make the shift. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 06:43 AM |
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There is no basis for your opinion, GG. |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 06:54 AM |
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You stated that "there are reasons" why renewables produce a tiny percentage of our energy - why? |
txlibdem |
Sep-06-11 08:31 AM |
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Because we have an industrial civilization predicated on fossil fuels. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 09:25 AM |
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We have a society highly dependent on fossil fuels -- it didn't happen over night, nor by accident |
txlibdem |
Sep-06-11 11:23 AM |
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Who said anything about a cataclysm? |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 01:16 PM |
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You said cataclysm |
txlibdem |
Sep-06-11 07:03 PM |
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I didn't say it will happen, I said it would both help and hinder if it happened. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 08:01 PM |
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After all of that you still haven't supported your assertion |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 07:18 PM |
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These are my opinions, kris. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 08:22 PM |
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It isn't a matter of opinion, it is a matter of facts. |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 08:33 PM |
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See, you just can't stop doing it. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-06-11 09:06 PM |
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I understood perfectly, I just don't accept your plea... |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 09:28 PM |
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He offered you his opinion |
Nederland |
Sep-07-11 12:58 AM |
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Your example is "an opinion" just as evolution or climate change is "an opinion" |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 01:01 AM |
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Exactly! |
Nederland |
Sep-07-11 01:03 AM |
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See, more of your silly games... |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 01:06 AM |
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A game played by two people though |
Nederland |
Sep-07-11 01:09 AM |
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Whenever I find my self getting entrenched in a position |
GliderGuider |
Sep-07-11 06:03 AM |
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That's one way of looking at it... |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 07:43 AM |
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I'm not comfortable as a materialist. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-07-11 08:24 AM |
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Bullpucky. Being a realist isn't being a materialist. |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 08:42 AM |
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What an excellent demonstration! |
GliderGuider |
Sep-07-11 08:48 AM |
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Being "realistic" means to be aligned with one's definition of reality, no? |
GliderGuider |
Sep-07-11 09:02 AM |
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No. |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 09:40 AM |
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So does it mean being aligned with someone else's definition of reality? |
GliderGuider |
Sep-07-11 09:56 AM |
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This isn't a metaphysical riddle, it is basic, well understood science and engineering. |
kristopher |
Sep-08-11 12:03 AM |
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What is the foundation of science? |
GliderGuider |
Sep-08-11 06:25 AM |
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Except we've actually built TVs and radios |
Nederland |
Sep-08-11 02:42 PM |
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And we've been building electrical grids for 100+ years |
kristopher |
Sep-08-11 05:47 PM |
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Grids that run on 100% wind and PV? |
GliderGuider |
Sep-08-11 08:34 PM |
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Based on events in CA today, I am a little skeptical about our ability to build robust grids. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-08-11 08:57 PM |
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That opinion demonstrates your lack of knowledge |
kristopher |
Sep-08-11 09:31 PM |
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Interesting how you ignored post #83 (nt) |
Nederland |
Sep-08-11 09:36 PM |
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Happy to respond. |
kristopher |
Sep-08-11 09:51 PM |
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Response |
Nederland |
Sep-08-11 11:43 PM |
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I can and am saying exactly that. |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 12:37 AM |
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Keep digging |
Nederland |
Sep-09-11 01:08 AM |
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We've long known from your climate denial position that your definition of "fact" |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 01:24 AM |
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You should really stop using the word sophistry kristopher |
Nederland |
Sep-09-11 01:31 AM |
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Apparently you don't like having your approach properly categorized |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 01:49 AM |
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Back to mind reading again Kristopher? |
Nederland |
Sep-09-11 10:48 PM |
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It doesn't require mind reading. |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 11:56 PM |
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You are delusional |
Nederland |
Sep-10-11 12:24 AM |
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Have we ever built and tested a million-customer grid based on 100% renewables yet? |
GliderGuider |
Sep-08-11 10:00 PM |
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That is part of the body of work that supports my assertions. |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 12:41 AM |
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I'm going to put a stake in the ground here. Think of it as driving in my picket pin. |
GliderGuider |
Sep-09-11 08:45 AM |
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Slow |
Nederland |
Sep-06-11 09:46 PM |
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"Maybe... Maybe... It doesn't really matter what the reason was though" |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 10:33 PM |
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Perhaps we should define terms |
Nederland |
Sep-06-11 10:53 PM |
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Perhaps you should have started with something besides obvious sophistry. |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 12:14 AM |
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Agreed |
Nederland |
Sep-07-11 01:01 AM |
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You've had far to many second chances... |
kristopher |
Sep-07-11 01:05 AM |
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I already did (nt) |
Nederland |
Sep-07-11 01:07 AM |
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There will be NO transition to renewable |
4dsc |
Sep-09-11 10:50 PM |
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You should enhance your understanding of "energy carriers" |
kristopher |
Sep-09-11 11:46 PM |
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BS alert |
4dsc |
Sep-10-11 10:32 AM |
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It's unfortunate you prefer to form your world view around junk science. |
kristopher |
Sep-10-11 03:03 PM |
#107 |
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