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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:41 AM
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11. A while back I looked into what it would cost in both money and materials to
retrofit a home for straw bales design.

Since I have a slab foundation, it would first take increasing the footprint of said foundation to accommodate the additional thickness of the walls.

The cost for just that was enough for me to give up.

However, it didn't stop me from exploring it as a concept.

First increase the foundation foot print by 2 feet out from each exterior wall. Tie in the new concrete to the existing foundation but drilling companion rebar holes.

Once concrete is dry, then a retrofit for the eves. This was the next biggest cost. Most houses don't have a deep overhang so this would need to be dealt with. Once a solution (smarter people than me) was found, then the construction of the hay bale walls could begin.

Depending on what the original exterior material is/was, I don't believe it would need to be removed.

I have hardiplank, so I fell that with some creative tie bolts through the walls would be all that was needed to attach the bales to the house.

Of course, this would require opening up selected spots on the interior walls to secure the bolts then dry walling back over.

My concept hits a snag as to how the eves would still vent the attic while at the same time allowing for connection with the hay bales.

I think it can be done, but like everything else, at a cost.

I also have an idea for using the attic space for rain water storage. LOL I have a lot of spare time. LOL
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  - K&R  AtheistCrusader   Jun-22-11 12:33 AM   #1 
  - I'll take one  handmade34   Jun-22-11 01:47 AM   #2 
  - Amory Lovins calls it 'tunneling through the cost barrier'  mahina   Jun-22-11 04:34 AM   #3 
  - The reduction in heating and cooling cost will more than make up the difference in cost  madokie   Jun-22-11 06:26 AM   #4 
  - That's not reducing...  Javaman   Jun-22-11 09:38 AM   #5 
  - Reducing below current production homes. Or current standards.  AtheistCrusader   Jun-22-11 10:26 AM   #7 
  - A while back I looked into what it would cost in both money and materials to  Javaman   Jun-22-11 11:41 AM   #11 
  - And that's the problem  pscot   Jun-23-11 11:02 AM   #25 
     - Exactly right.  Javaman   Jun-24-11 07:28 AM   #26 
     - Let me ask you a question...  kristopher   Jun-24-11 08:51 AM   #27 
        - Just for openers  pscot   Jun-24-11 09:23 PM   #28 
           - How about energy efficiency ratings and labels for all buildings?  kristopher   Jun-24-11 10:54 PM   #29 
              - The housing market is moribund  pscot   Jun-25-11 12:41 AM   #30 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-11 12:43 AM   #31 
                    - The idea of certification is not unreasonable  pscot   Jun-25-11 11:13 AM   #32 
  - $50k for families that move every 5 yrs?  One_Life_To_Give   Jun-22-11 10:22 AM   #6 
  - Do you have numbers on that?  AtheistCrusader   Jun-22-11 10:32 AM   #8 
     - Nor do I move so frequently  One_Life_To_Give   Jun-22-11 11:16 AM   #9 
        - Looks like an old Kelvinator.  AtheistCrusader   Jun-22-11 11:26 AM   #10 
           - Looks can be deceiving.  guardian   Jun-22-11 12:00 PM   #12 
              - That doesn't sound very energy efficient.  AtheistCrusader   Jun-22-11 12:23 PM   #13 
  - Remember tthe Alamo  crikkett   Jun-22-11 05:52 PM   #14 
  - I'm assuming a super-insulated house like that would need  canoeist52   Jun-22-11 06:36 PM   #15 
  - It has one. A very special one  AtheistCrusader   Jun-23-11 09:34 AM   #22 
  - Does it scale down well?  Kennah   Jun-22-11 07:04 PM   #16 
  - Not that big.  A Simple Game   Jun-22-11 08:18 PM   #17 
     - It's still three times bigger than my house  XemaSab   Jun-22-11 11:29 PM   #19 
  - It's too bad that heat doesn't grow on trees.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-22-11 11:20 PM   #18 
  - Why not both?  kristopher   Jun-22-11 11:46 PM   #20 
  - There's a point of diminishing returns.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-23-11 09:59 AM   #24 
  - 100%? Even if you have commercial forestland in your back pocket  AtheistCrusader   Jun-23-11 09:36 AM   #23 
  - Seriously impressed by the door in that article ...  Nihil   Jun-23-11 04:42 AM   #21 
 

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