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PamW Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:46 PM
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58. Just because you don't know doesn't mean others don't
During nomal operation, boiling-hot water is pumped though these tubes at high pressure, and that doesn't keep the crud from building up. Do you really think you could wipe off something that high-pressure high-temperature water can't remove? If it were that simple, would they really ship it all the way to Sweden to have somebody wipe it off?
No, of course not. Use some common sense.
The stuff is heavily bonded to the surface and can't be simply wiped off or washed off.

Once again you think that just because you can't think of a way to do it that it can't be done.

They essentially "sand blast" the inside of the tubes and that removes the crud.

You are the one that needs to think things out. How about when the crud builds up on the inside of the pipes in your home or in the radiator of your car under the pressure. I guess you have to replumb the house and buy a new radiator because you can't clean crud that has built up over time and pressure.

Why do you always presume that because you can't think of a way to do something, that someone who is a lot smarter and brighter can't figure out a way to do that which you think can't be done?

The reason Ontario Hydro doesn't do it is because they aren't setup to do it and don't have the facilities and tools that Studsvik has. Why do you take your car to a mechanic? Can't you do everything needed to maintain your car yourself?

As with many industrial operations, it makes sense to have a central facility that can service all the steam generators that are shipped to it, rather than have each reactor operator build their own facilities and hire their own staffs to do the work. Again, not everyone needs to have all the tools and expertise to service their car - we have garages and mechanics that you bring the car to for service.

GADS - it's like having to explain things to a toddler.


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  -MIT students receive Rudenberg Award for Fukushima reporting PamW  May-24-11 08:35 PM   #0 
  - MIT trying to whitewash their ethics scandal? Too late...  kristopher   May-24-11 09:17 PM   #1 
  - "There was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity."  bananas   May-24-11 10:54 PM   #3 
  - "Already worse" than "Chernobyl on steroids" was just as wrong.  FBaggins   May-25-11 05:07 AM   #7 
     - Google says 'No results found for "Already worse than Chernobyl on steroids"'  bananas   May-25-11 05:38 AM   #8 
     - I fixed it  FBaggins   May-25-11 05:44 AM   #9 
        - March 15: "This Could Become Chernobyl on Steroids"  bananas   May-25-11 05:59 AM   #11 
        - If that was the only time he said it... you could try that spin.  FBaggins   May-25-11 07:15 AM   #13 
           - And he's correct so far  bananas   May-25-11 08:03 AM   #16 
              - He has said that it's ALREADY worse than Chernobyl.  FBaggins   May-25-11 08:07 AM   #17 
                 - He says "will be" twice, then the host asks him "You say 'will be', do you think ..."  bananas   May-25-11 08:35 AM   #18 
                    - Another example: people said Constellation is/would be "Apollo on steroids"  bananas   May-25-11 08:42 AM   #19 
                    - Once again... this is only one of a number of times that he said it.  FBaggins   May-25-11 08:47 AM   #20 
                    - "I actually think it's at Chernobyl level right now"  FBaggins   May-25-11 01:44 PM   #24 
                       - Yup - INES level 7. nt  bananas   May-26-11 08:34 PM   #25 
                          - Never heard of "context"?  FBaggins   May-26-11 09:21 PM   #28 
        - So you're deflecting from MIT's ethics scandal by making up quotes from other people  bananas   May-25-11 06:10 AM   #12 
           - Sorry... when did it become an "ethics scandal"?  FBaggins   May-25-11 07:56 AM   #15 
              - You wouldn't recognize an ethics scandal,  SpoonFed   May-26-11 08:54 PM   #26 
     - Fukushima "Worse Than Chernobyl" When It Comes To Oceans  bananas   May-25-11 05:52 AM   #10 
     - Was Chernobyl next to an ocean?  FBaggins   May-25-11 07:17 AM   #14 
     - Dependable Baggins, always there to defend the nuke industry.  kristopher   May-25-11 10:30 AM   #21 
     - This *major* Level 7 nuclear *disaster* is still unfolding - it is not over  jpak   May-25-11 10:42 AM   #22 
        - Chernobyl isn't "over" either.  FBaggins   May-25-11 11:36 AM   #23 
           - I'll get back to you on that  SpoonFed   May-26-11 08:56 PM   #27 
  - Not to mention this is effectively an internal award...  SpoonFed   May-24-11 11:12 PM   #4 
  - Reinhold Rudenberg accomplished quite a bit.  Wilms   May-24-11 09:44 PM   #2 
     - He must be turning over in his grave over this award.  bananas   May-24-11 11:27 PM   #5 
        - The OPer lost a lot of credibility putting up easily debunked bunk.  Wilms   May-24-11 11:42 PM   #6 
           - What pray tell was "debunked" - i.e shown to be false  PamW   May-28-11 02:26 PM   #29 
              - Here's one.  Wilms   May-28-11 02:49 PM   #30 
                 - What pray tell was debunked in the OP?  PamW   May-28-11 02:56 PM   #31 
                 - Rude, and deflecting.  Wilms   May-28-11 03:42 PM   #33 
                 - Wrong, as always.  PamW   May-29-11 02:11 PM   #37 
                    - .  Wilms   May-29-11 03:14 PM   #39 
                       - and then what did the Democrats in Congress do?  PamW   Jun-04-11 11:52 AM   #47 
                          - Once again, your assertion is NOT supported by the link you offer.  Wilms   Jun-04-11 07:37 PM   #53 
                             - I for one cannot believe that...  SpoonFed   Jun-05-11 12:25 AM   #54 
                                - I'm crushed.  Wilms   Jun-05-11 06:37 AM   #55 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-28-11 03:48 PM   #34 
                 - "It's like watching a train wreck, but with thoughts instead of carriages."  bananas   May-28-11 04:30 PM   #35 
                 - I examined the posts you cite...  PamW   May-29-11 02:35 PM   #38 
                 - True or False: "A typical landscape REFLECTS about 90% of the suns energy."  bananas   May-30-11 11:51 AM   #42 
                 - I examined the post on "contagious" radioactivity  PamW   May-29-11 03:24 PM   #40 
                    - True or False: 'Steam generators do NOT have "nuclear waste".'  bananas   May-31-11 04:55 AM   #44 
                       - Yes - I would agree that the generators themselves are not radioactive  PamW   Jun-04-11 11:25 AM   #46 
                          - And you would be wrong.  bananas   Jun-04-11 01:01 PM   #48 
                             - Yes - you CAN wipe away the contamination  PamW   Jun-04-11 06:24 PM   #52 
                                - No, you can't. Think about it, Pam - during normal operation,  bananas   Jun-05-11 12:33 PM   #57 
                                   - Just because you don't know doesn't mean others don't  PamW   Jun-05-11 04:46 PM   #58 
                                      - Oh good, you read the pdf.  bananas   Jun-05-11 05:59 PM   #61 
                                      - Yep. Nice analogy...  SpoonFed   Jun-07-11 12:25 AM   #63 
                 - "I simply do not believe you have a doctorate in a field related to physics...too many basic errors"  bananas   May-28-11 04:59 PM   #36 
                    - Understandable - but that's due to YOUR ERROR.  PamW   May-30-11 06:32 AM   #41 
                       - True or False: 'Steam generators do NOT have "nuclear waste".'  bananas   May-31-11 04:49 AM   #43 
                       - I would say TRUE. Steam generators are not "nuclear waste"  PamW   Jun-02-11 09:05 PM   #45 
                          - Wrong - the steam generators are nuclear waste. nt  bananas   Jun-04-11 01:02 PM   #49 
                       - Nope - none of my posts in that thread are in error.  bananas   Jun-04-11 02:39 PM   #50 
                          - Baloney - ALL your posts have been in ERROR  PamW   Jun-04-11 06:13 PM   #51 
                             - Nope - even DrGregory admitted he was wrong and I was right.  bananas   Jun-05-11 11:27 AM   #56 
                                - Intellectually dishonest - as always.  PamW   Jun-05-11 04:55 PM   #59 
                                   - No, OnlinePoker said that, not me.  bananas   Jun-05-11 05:50 PM   #60 
                                   - Intellectually dishonest?  kristopher   Jun-05-11 07:46 PM   #62 
                 - Here's another one: "A typical landscape REFLECTS about 90% of the suns energy."  bananas   May-28-11 03:27 PM   #32 

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