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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 01:52 PM
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21. "Nuclear perpetuating the system" - You're the only one who claims that.
I've never read a knowledgeable environmentalist who claims that. Maybe you have a line on the nuclear+coal conspiracy blogs that I don't know about? :-)

I've never used the phrase "prohibitively expensive" to describe energy storage for renewables. What I said is that energy storage is vital, absolutely needed to get to 100% renewable energy.

I will readily admit that I am trying to undermine fossil fuels of all types, be it coal, oil or natural gas. I will never stop attempting to undermine the deadly, polluting, radioactive material spewing, toxic and hugely expensive (if its true cost were calculated) fossil fuels. Renewables with energy storage and adequate excess capacity is the only way to end the use of these poisonous, dangerous fossil fuels.
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  -Proceedings of IEEE: Why nuclear power will never supply the world's energy needs kristopher  May-14-11 10:55 AM   #0 
  - It's an insightful and accessible article. Recommended.  GliderGuider   May-14-11 12:11 PM   #1 
  - You're welcome.  kristopher   May-14-11 03:13 PM   #4 
  - Uranium supply would not last with 15,000 reactors  txlibdem   May-14-11 12:22 PM   #2 
  - Thorium is also rejected.  kristopher   May-14-11 12:31 PM   #3 
  - It's not the thorium supply that's the issue, apparently.  GliderGuider   May-14-11 05:58 PM   #5 
     - High power density of LFTR requires less of those exotic materials (if any)  txlibdem   May-14-11 09:19 PM   #7 
        - Why do I suspect that the Devil is hiding in his usual place...  GliderGuider   May-14-11 09:27 PM   #8 
           - There's a hint of the devil here:  GliderGuider   May-14-11 09:35 PM   #10 
           - Such as?  txlibdem   May-14-11 09:39 PM   #11 
              - Such as the ones above in post #10... nt  GliderGuider   May-14-11 09:52 PM   #12 
                 - Developing LFTRs will require advances in high temperature materials  txlibdem   May-15-11 07:01 AM   #13 
                    - A solution that will not be ready from *more* than 2 decades isn't a solution.  kristopher   May-15-11 10:14 AM   #14 
                       - Where did you get 2 decades? And does it change my opinion  txlibdem   May-15-11 10:48 AM   #15 
                       - It's mentioned in the first link in post 10. Also in this Australian government paper:  GliderGuider   May-15-11 11:01 AM   #16 
                          - Okay, and we have a 55-year supply of Uranium left. I'll just have to wait till 2030.  txlibdem   May-15-11 11:23 AM   #17 
                       - Didn't grasp that...  SpoonFed   May-16-11 07:37 AM   # 
                       - He has belief that some cockeyed system of automated manufacturing makes everything he wants free.  kristopher   May-16-11 04:12 PM   #25 
                       - Didn't grasp that...  SpoonFed   May-16-11 07:37 AM   #24 
                          - Read the entire thread (fm 2010)  kristopher   Jun-15-11 01:10 PM   #26 
                             - Hahaha, Epic, Worth The Read...  SpoonFed   Jun-15-11 02:49 PM   #27 
  - IEEE is obviously biased against nuclear fission  kristopher   May-14-11 07:29 PM   #6 
     - It's been well established that wind requires no energy storage up to about 20% of total energy mix  txlibdem   May-14-11 09:33 PM   #9 
        - Storage is an economic niche not a technical one.  kristopher   May-15-11 12:14 PM   #18 
           - Ad hominem not accepted as a valid response  txlibdem   May-15-11 12:43 PM   #19 
              - Twisting and spinning the truth is what you are trying to do - -  kristopher   May-15-11 12:53 PM   #20 
                 - "Nuclear perpetuating the system" - You're the only one who claims that.  txlibdem   May-15-11 01:52 PM   #21 
                    - So you are using the Shrub defense.  kristopher   May-15-11 08:26 PM   #22 
                       - Yo no soy el arbusto - I got your reference :-)  txlibdem   May-15-11 09:13 PM   #23 

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