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Sat Apr-30-11 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #23 |
| 33. I can think of another area of disagreement... |
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Why dont you run that great floating cities of evacuees by gregorian to find out what he/she thinks about it
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| -Union of Concerned Scientists: radioactive emissions from coal combustion higher than nuclear plants |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 05:49 PM |
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Thanks for posting this interesting information. You have one thing wrong, however. |
enough |
Apr-29-11 05:58 PM |
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I still have the capacity to learn, please help me to understand why |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 06:15 PM |
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Just watch how nonabecquerel's of uranium from Fukushima demand action... |
FBaggins |
Apr-29-11 06:04 PM |
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+1 |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 06:22 PM |
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"Whoops! All you anti-nukers better rethink your love of coal power plants..." |
jpak |
Apr-29-11 06:17 PM |
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What's the largest amout of tritium that has been reported released? |
FBaggins |
Apr-29-11 06:22 PM |
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Because if they counted spent fuel - "emissions" from nukes would be orders of magnitude > coal |
jpak |
Apr-29-11 06:28 PM |
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So you're going to dodge ALL of the questions? |
FBaggins |
Apr-29-11 06:32 PM |
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Uh |
SpoonFed |
Apr-30-11 04:18 PM |
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Wrong again |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 05:13 AM |
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Orders of magnitude? What a laugh! |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 06:59 PM |
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I doubt he knows what an "order of magnitude" is. |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 03:14 PM |
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You don't know what an order of magnitude is - do you |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 04:28 PM |
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The UCS and all of science disagrees with you |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 04:55 PM |
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I know what I'm talking about and I stand by those statements |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 05:05 PM |
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You stand by statements you don't understand. |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 05:56 PM |
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You obviously have never heard of the Energy Employees Occupational Illness Compensation Program Act |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 06:58 PM |
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6.9 is more than 44 in your mind? |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 05:22 AM |
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Yeah - all of science |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 05:54 PM |
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Except the "scientists" who are on the payroll of the Koch Bros or Big Coal |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 06:17 PM |
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Which ones are those? The ones in Fairy Tales? |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 06:59 PM |
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This may be one of your best posts yet - the one with the most intellectual content anyway |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 07:25 PM |
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WRONG!!! |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 03:11 PM |
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Wonderful, finally a sane recitation of that study... |
kristopher |
Apr-30-11 03:31 PM |
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It's fun to watch you just making crap up |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 05:20 PM |
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Couldn't disagree with you more... |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 06:07 PM |
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That's like saying a bullet isn't lethal because lead is present at ore levels in the environment |
kristopher |
Apr-30-11 06:27 PM |
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Where did you pull that one out of??? |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 07:48 PM |
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You have obviously never heard of uranium mining and milling or fuel fabrication or enrichment |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 04:46 PM |
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Why are you not counting coal mining??? |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 05:39 PM |
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I am not defending coal - only pointing out the convenient amnesia of the pronucular argument |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 05:56 PM |
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You ARE defending coal when you use a one-sided argument such as that |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 06:27 PM |
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bullshit |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 07:12 PM |
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Whatever.... |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 06:15 PM |
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The scientiifc truth? Can you say Fukushima? |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 07:02 PM |
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Can you say coal kills more people than Fukushima and Chernobyl combined |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 07:30 PM |
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Every year |
FBaggins |
Apr-30-11 07:33 PM |
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Sure - Fukushima |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 09:24 PM |
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What an ignorant post - this disaster is still unfolding |
jpak |
May-01-11 05:26 AM |
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Please provide a link to show how many deaths from Chernobyl |
txlibdem |
May-01-11 04:53 PM |
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And you know the number of excess cancer deaths that will result from this? |
jpak |
May-01-11 07:41 PM |
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And if you don't know how many... claims of hundreds of thousands is reasonable? |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 07:44 PM |
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I'm pretty sure this is the same poster who was indeed putting a high number to Fukushima deaths |
txlibdem |
May-01-11 09:45 PM |
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I have never claimed any such number |
jpak |
May-02-11 05:21 AM |
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Wiould you agree that those who do have no basis for the claim? n/t |
FBaggins |
May-02-11 05:28 AM |
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No one has made those claims |
jpak |
May-02-11 05:36 AM |
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Arnie did... and more than one poster here parroted it. |
FBaggins |
May-02-11 05:41 AM |
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Apparently it's credible to the likes of... |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 12:04 PM |
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You need to tell jpak. Not me. |
FBaggins |
May-02-11 12:36 PM |
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let me summarize a list of people you believe are credible... |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 02:29 PM |
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What an odd use of the word "summarize" |
FBaggins |
May-02-11 02:42 PM |
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hot fbags air, does not contain radiactive cesium to my knowledge |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 03:34 PM |
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Lying? nope. |
FBaggins |
May-02-11 03:39 PM |
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So you agree with Busby's figure of 400,000 cancer deaths from Fukushima? |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 02:19 PM |
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Are you calling the Union of Concerned Scientists a bunch of LIARS??? |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 06:25 PM |
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You have obviously not read the ORNL report - your opinions are based on ignorance |
jpak |
Apr-29-11 06:30 PM |
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Do you think the UCS has read it? n/t |
FBaggins |
Apr-29-11 06:32 PM |
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You are impervious to facts - even when they come from environmentalists |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 07:02 PM |
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If so - then they should be reported to the NRC... |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 03:26 PM |
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The NRC is well aware of tritium releases from US nuclear plants - you obviously are not |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 05:03 PM |
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Of course a scientist would - it is called perspective. |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 06:36 PM |
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Do you know how many thousands of nuclear workers have been compensated by the US government |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 07:11 PM |
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FAR fewer than those compensated coal miners |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 05:24 AM |
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So you admit that the nuclear fuel cycle exposes workers to levels of radiation that kills them |
jpak |
May-01-11 05:41 AM |
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Lol! So a death only counts if taxpayers pay for it? |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 05:53 AM |
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Your non-rebuttal speaks volumes - nuclear power is not safe or clean - it is lethal |
jpak |
May-01-11 06:56 AM |
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You being uncomfortable with a rebuttal... and one not existing... are not the same thing. |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 10:14 AM |
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The NRC is aware of Tritium leaks -- you should stop using it as a boogie-man |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 06:43 PM |
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How dare you |
SpoonFed |
Apr-30-11 04:14 PM |
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Yeah, the pronuclear contingent is in full ostrich denial mode |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 05:08 PM |
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Yes, but |
Turbineguy |
Apr-29-11 07:00 PM |
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That is what the coal lobby wants us all to believe anyway |
txlibdem |
Apr-29-11 07:06 PM |
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Good. You acknowledge the expertise of UCS. |
kristopher |
Apr-29-11 08:16 PM |
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I only posted the one article from them, finally admitting that coal puts out more radiation |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 07:26 AM |
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This is very, very, very OLD news, but given that it only took the Concerned "Scientists" |
NNadir |
Apr-29-11 08:31 PM |
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So DU is a hellhole to you now huh? |
madokie |
Apr-30-11 08:32 AM |
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Yeah. |
NNadir |
Apr-30-11 07:23 PM |
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How's the molten salt breeder reactor coming along? |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 07:31 PM |
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The MSRE was shutdown in 1969. Nobody is working on that technology |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 09:28 PM |
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He claimed he invented one in his backyard |
jpak |
May-01-11 05:29 AM |
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The MSRE was shutdown in 1969 (but research has continued) |
AnEngineer |
May-11-11 10:10 PM |
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Another benefit to Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor: 1000 year supply of fuel |
txlibdem |
May-12-11 07:48 AM |
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Pam's not here man |
madokie |
May-01-11 07:34 AM |
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You can say that again - it's DISGUSTING |
PamW |
Apr-30-11 09:32 PM |
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Sorry - the Fukushima apologists are disgusting and ignore ((((reality)))) |
jpak |
May-01-11 05:44 AM |
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Please bring your facts to the table -- you've said nothing of substance yet |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 07:06 AM |
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Right-wing conservative hate speech: "There's no limit to the contempt and opprobrium I have" |
bananas |
May-02-11 06:37 AM |
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You cite no facts or quotes, not even an informed opinion. Junk posts not needed here |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 07:10 AM |
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What unbelievably disgusting crap - and I'm talking about you. nt |
bananas |
May-02-11 06:39 AM |
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May-02-11 04:47 PM |
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Hey - welcome back! |
jpak |
Apr-30-11 04:22 PM |
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Well now my posts don't sound so silly do they? |
Gregorian |
Apr-29-11 08:59 PM |
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Please post more often on the topic |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 07:34 AM |
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Don't get me wrong. I'm completely opposed to nuclear. For the same reason. |
Gregorian |
Apr-30-11 12:10 PM |
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Nothing wrong with that |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 03:04 PM |
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I can think of another area of disagreement... |
SpoonFed |
Apr-30-11 04:52 PM |
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Bringing up things from an entirely different OP??? |
txlibdem |
Apr-30-11 06:14 PM |
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Your reply shows you to be a liar |
madokie |
May-01-11 07:55 AM |
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MADokie = Kris??? Now you're just making crap up, too. |
txlibdem |
May-01-11 08:53 AM |
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May-01-11 04:15 PM |
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Always the gentleman. |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 04:32 PM |
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Who rattled your chain anyway |
madokie |
May-01-11 04:37 PM |
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In the interests of a civil discussion, I'll be the better man and apologize |
txlibdem |
May-01-11 05:05 PM |
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Peace |
madokie |
May-01-11 05:19 PM |
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wow... |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 12:16 PM |
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Ha ha. Cute attempt to turn reality on its head |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 02:02 PM |
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What paranoia you ask? |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 02:52 PM |
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Par for the course: another fact-free anti-nuke post |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 03:20 PM |
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Why can't these floating cities just be hovercities? |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 04:26 PM |
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You see what I mean? |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 04:46 PM |
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hahahaahahaah n/t |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 04:49 PM |
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You make a mockery of yourself |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 05:06 PM |
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It isn't opposition, it is derision. |
kristopher |
May-02-11 05:35 PM |
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Kris says he appreciates me! OMG, I'm blushing. |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 07:14 PM |
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Here's a USGS webpage on flyash: |
struggle4progress |
Apr-30-11 07:12 PM |
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Coal is an environmental problem but uranium content is not the primary reason |
txlibdem |
May-01-11 05:29 PM |
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Exactly right. Uranium is WAY down on the list of dangers from coal |
FBaggins |
May-01-11 07:26 PM |
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Why not both at the same time? |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 12:23 PM |
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Because together they make up 2/3 of our electricity generation. |
FBaggins |
May-02-11 12:33 PM |
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It's impossible to make it simple enough for anti-nukers to grasp |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 05:19 PM |
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Laughing so hard my side hurts... |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 06:44 PM |
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Everyone is not laughing WITH you, they're laughing AT you |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 07:22 PM |
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I'll show you what's comical |
Someguyinjapan |
May-02-11 08:27 PM |
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That's a nice picture |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 08:44 PM |
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Um, yeah |
Someguyinjapan |
May-02-11 09:06 PM |
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See post #133 |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 10:49 PM |
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*Sigh* |
Someguyinjapan |
May-03-11 08:43 AM |
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you are so wrong |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 09:12 PM |
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I now support your idea... with reservations. |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 08:34 PM |
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Now we're getting somewhere |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 10:39 PM |
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The only place we've ended up... |
SpoonFed |
May-04-11 04:49 PM |
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You've made a lot of claims but provided no backup at all - should the world ignore your post? |
txlibdem |
May-04-11 05:12 PM |
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Here's Gabbard's estimated global total radioactivity release from coal, 1937 - 2040: |
struggle4progress |
May-02-11 02:50 PM |
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Thanks for the post n/t |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 06:39 PM |
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The source link you provided proves you are wrong |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 06:46 PM |
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Please please please |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 07:00 PM |
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Only because you are so special to me... |
txlibdem |
May-02-11 07:27 PM |
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Clearly you are incapable of common courtesy... |
SpoonFed |
May-04-11 04:47 PM |
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Yes, clearly our interchanges on DU have proven that "I'm the jerk" |
txlibdem |
May-04-11 05:28 PM |
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Let me just continue to correct your errors... |
SpoonFed |
May-05-11 02:56 AM |
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Your answer is in post #148 |
txlibdem |
May-05-11 09:10 PM |
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Translation... |
SpoonFed |
May-05-11 09:26 PM |
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Your post was nothing but repitition ad nauseum |
txlibdem |
May-05-11 10:20 PM |
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The Gabbard webpage at ORNL is the source of the whole discussion, and it is linked |
struggle4progress |
May-02-11 07:39 PM |
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Coal emissions into weapons...? |
SpoonFed |
May-02-11 08:05 PM |
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Coal ash consists mainly of compounds like silicates, alumina, and iron rust: |
struggle4progress |
May-03-11 12:09 AM |
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You've got your facts exactly backwards |
txlibdem |
May-03-11 07:44 AM |
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Table 2.--Comparative results for EPA-NBS interlaboratory trace element study |
struggle4progress |
May-03-11 10:01 AM |
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It depends on where the sample is taken: Uranium in coal varies from 1 to 10 ppm |
txlibdem |
May-03-11 04:15 PM |
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You stoop to putting words in my mouth, so we're done here. |
struggle4progress |
May-03-11 04:57 PM |
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If you want a crude cost estimate, the US has spent something like 5.5 trillion |
struggle4progress |
May-03-11 12:30 AM |
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That means that any oil rich nation can do it with just a few days worth of oil profits |
txlibdem |
May-03-11 07:52 AM |
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This idea's been knocking around for over a half century. ORNL looked at it in the early 1950s. |
struggle4progress |
May-04-11 09:30 AM |
#144 |
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Are you willing to sign an NDA? |
SpoonFed |
May-03-11 11:09 AM |
#141 |
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