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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 09:29 PM
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23. It says in the report
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 09:31 PM by Confusious
"National Grid can only meter windfarms connected directly to the Grid, not those embedded in the wider distribution network."

There's why. They also took 80% of Scotland. more omissions?

"The group that was excluded also share a common architecture for integrating with the grid."

Really? are you an expert in the UK energy grid also?

"I'm not an expert on wind power in Scotland, and the paper should be (and will be) examined by those that will know the details necessary to evaluate the paper."

So why are you saying they all have the same "common architecture" going into the grid?
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  -Wind power not doing too well in the UK. TheMadMonk  Apr-09-11 06:54 AM   #0 
  - Put them where there is a lot of wind. Average output will be higher.  geckosfeet   Apr-09-11 07:28 AM   #1 
  - Apparently the UK is the 'windiest' European country  Bosonic   Apr-09-11 07:41 AM   #2 
     - Actually the study has a bit of ambiguity...  kristopher   Apr-09-11 08:10 AM   #4 
  - Interesting, but it isn't possible to assess the validity of this study without more information.  kristopher   Apr-09-11 08:03 AM   #3 
  - With fifty percent of the capacity, it's a fair first approximation...  TheMadMonk   Apr-09-11 09:57 AM   #5 
  - I disagree, it is not a fair approximation. It has some merit, but only to raise questions.  kristopher   Apr-09-11 11:01 AM   #6 
     - Kris, you yourself have posted a number of studies that show only up to 20% wind or so  txlibdem   Apr-09-11 12:11 PM   #11 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-09-11 12:39 PM   #14 
  - They have all that they can meter  Confusious   Apr-09-11 09:25 PM   #21 
  - How confident are you on the substation/grid point?  FBaggins   Apr-09-11 09:39 PM   #24 
  - It's a first step toward getting accurate performance data  txlibdem   Apr-09-11 11:31 AM   #7 
  - This isn't a "first step"; it is an outlier.  kristopher   Apr-09-11 11:47 AM   #8 
     - How does a factual analysis make it a hit piece?  txlibdem   Apr-09-11 11:59 AM   #9 
     - I described the problems with the study in post #3  kristopher   Apr-09-11 12:20 PM   #12 
     - Only what is "seen" by the NG, yes, but if you read on...  txlibdem   Apr-09-11 01:28 PM   #16 
     - He took every wind farm he could meter  Confusious   Apr-09-11 09:27 PM   #22 
     - It makes renewables look bad  Confusious   Apr-09-11 04:20 PM   #19 
        - That is why I am confused by all the attacks on the OP  txlibdem   Apr-09-11 05:08 PM   #20 
        - Do you really think that anyone thinks or proposes that wind is 100%  madokie   Apr-09-11 09:54 PM   #25 
           - The way some of you act,  Confusious   Apr-10-11 01:59 AM   #27 
     - You don't think these numbers are accurate?  XemaSab   Apr-09-11 12:03 PM   #10 
        - What about the other 50% of wind turbines that were not in the study?  kristopher   Apr-09-11 12:33 PM   #13 
           - It says in the report  Confusious   Apr-09-11 09:29 PM   #23 
           - Pre-agregate all you like. You can not properly smooth a mix of intermittent...  TheMadMonk   Apr-09-11 11:11 PM   #26 
              - Problems  Confusious   Apr-10-11 02:09 AM   #28 
              - Take a look at Alexandria one day. Much of its Roman understory...  TheMadMonk   Apr-10-11 09:57 PM   #32 
                 - Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, mostly  Confusious   Apr-10-11 11:46 PM   #33 
                    - Where I come from stormwater and sewage are kept separate.  TheMadMonk   Apr-11-11 02:17 AM   #35 
                       - What do you mean by "non-potable" water?  XemaSab   Apr-11-11 02:30 AM   #36 
                       - non-potable Not considered suitable for drinking or cooking.  TheMadMonk   Apr-11-11 03:35 AM   #37 
                       - I watched some talk about using all the available resource  Confusious   Apr-11-11 06:25 PM   #41 
                          - Don't assume plants are like humans  XemaSab   Apr-11-11 11:42 PM   #47 
                             - I was talking about plants that can't handle the sun  Confusious   Apr-12-11 12:01 AM   #48 
              - I like your heat storage idea  txlibdem   Apr-11-11 09:20 AM   #38 
                 - PV --> Heat pumps. Run them backwards for electricity out.  TheMadMonk   Apr-11-11 10:10 PM   #42 
  - Install them on the steps of parliament. nt  donco   Apr-09-11 12:58 PM   #15 
  - Install them on the rooftops of every building in London  txlibdem   Apr-09-11 01:32 PM   #17 
  - Yawn - wind power is economically viable and produces significant amounts of electricity in the UK  jpak   Apr-09-11 01:59 PM   #18 
  - Wind Power in the UK  arachadillo   Apr-10-11 02:02 PM   #29 
  - The problem with "planning" for 25%  XemaSab   Apr-10-11 04:36 PM   #30 
  - Wind Power Math  arachadillo   Apr-11-11 03:27 PM   #40 
     - Your summary is flawed in several places. This might help.  kristopher   Apr-12-11 12:11 AM   #49 
     - Read the Article  arachadillo   Apr-12-11 11:42 AM   #51 
        - No  Yo_Mama   Apr-12-11 03:46 PM   #52 
     - Hope you enjoyed your visit to Texas!  txlibdem   Apr-12-11 06:49 AM   #50 
  - Good summary, and welcome to DU!  txlibdem   Apr-11-11 10:31 AM   #39 
  - Not surprising - it is to be expected.  PamW   Apr-10-11 05:04 PM   #31 
  - ONOZ!  XemaSab   Apr-11-11 12:46 AM   #34 
  - What are the current capacity factors of Fukushima-Daiichi units 1, 2, 3 & 4 ?  jpak   Apr-11-11 10:21 PM   #43 
     - What's the capacity factor of Altamont?  XemaSab   Apr-11-11 10:37 PM   #44 
        - Greater than zero - which is more than the collective capacity factors of those nukes  jpak   Apr-11-11 11:33 PM   #45 
  - Nuclear power not doing so well in Japan  jpak   Apr-11-11 11:39 PM   #46 
 

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