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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 08:08 AM
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68. Oh SNAP!
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  -What happens when 29 reindeer encounter an untouched island. (dial up warning) tinrobot  Feb-10-11 12:26 PM   #0 
  - ERROR: You cannot recommend this post ten million times....  mike_c   Feb-10-11 12:29 PM   #1 
  - I  femrap   Feb-10-11 04:44 PM   #23 
  - Well ... given enough time, just maybe you can  66 dmhlt   Feb-10-11 08:19 PM   #37 
     - me too...  AnotherDreamWeaver   Feb-10-11 11:16 PM   #54 
     - Too late to recommend  pscot   Feb-22-11 12:01 PM   #122 
  - K&R  Viking12   Feb-10-11 12:35 PM   #2 
  - K&R  Angry Dragon   Feb-10-11 12:37 PM   #3 
  - K&R  immoderate   Feb-10-11 12:43 PM   #4 
  - Do NOT worry, just as God on Kolob created this world  HereSince1628   Feb-10-11 12:46 PM   #5 
  - Kick.  pinto   Feb-10-11 12:46 PM   #6 
  - How long before someone misses the point and says the answer is hunting to 'thin the herd?'  onehandle   Feb-10-11 12:47 PM   #7 
  - Yeah, a kind of "Kill, Baby, Kill" mantra?  KansDem   Feb-10-11 04:54 PM   #26 
  - A modest proposal?  kag   Feb-10-11 11:01 PM   #52 
  - Isn't that what war is?  Aleric   Feb-10-11 11:11 PM   #53 
  - So what is the point, then? There are what, 8 BILLION of us? We only have so much resources.  cleanhippie   Feb-11-11 09:50 AM   #73 
  - And 99% of the people on this island (planet earth) don't get it.  loudsue   Feb-10-11 12:48 PM   #8 
  - Either too many people or not enough Earth for our current mindless  ladjf   Feb-10-11 01:25 PM   #11 
  - Not enough Earth... For our current mindless lifestyle  txlibdem   Feb-11-11 08:36 AM   #70 
     - That is the reality we *could* have were it not for Capitalism.  AlbertCat   Feb-11-11 11:30 AM   #81 
     - Communism worked real well too???? Even though IT HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED???  txlibdem   Feb-12-11 12:31 AM   #98 
     - Unfortunately, humans have an erroneous sense that the Earth's  ladjf   Feb-11-11 01:35 PM   #92 
     - There is great profit in manufacturing "scarcity" of this or that  txlibdem   Feb-12-11 12:38 AM   #99 
     - Unfortunately, humans have an erroneous sense that the Earth's  ladjf   Feb-11-11 01:35 PM   #93 
     - We are consuming our eco-system for the profit of a few.  CrispyQ   Feb-21-11 11:06 AM   #108 
  - Plus one.  Enthusiast   Feb-11-11 06:24 AM   #62 
  - Might be a bit late  Delphinus   Feb-22-11 05:59 AM   #120 
  - If that were true... Who would decide who among us is "excess"  txlibdem   Feb-11-11 08:26 AM   #69 
     - Well, as the Papal Elector said to the Archbishop  pscot   Feb-22-11 12:10 PM   #123 
  - K & R!  Arkansas Granny   Feb-10-11 12:49 PM   #9 
  - it remimded me  d_r   Feb-10-11 01:24 PM   #10 
  - The underlying problem:  GliderGuider   Feb-10-11 01:47 PM   #12 
  - But we're human beings - we'll NEVER run out of lichen!  hatrack   Feb-10-11 02:06 PM   #15 
     - We should be wearing buttons that read, "I'm likin' lichen!"  KansDem   Feb-10-11 04:58 PM   #28 
  - Now give them cars, houses, and refrigerators.  Gregorian   Feb-10-11 02:01 PM   #13 
  - We've drawn the entirely wrong conclusion from this scenario.  FBaggins   Feb-10-11 02:05 PM   #14 
  - LOL! nt  Enthusiast   Feb-11-11 06:25 AM   #63 
  - K & R. nt  Lorien   Feb-10-11 02:34 PM   #16 
  - Overpopulatoin is a huge problem no one is willing to discuss.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-10-11 02:45 PM   #17 
  - We used to discuss it all  femrap   Feb-10-11 04:47 PM   #24 
  - Just another wonderful Reagan  Enthusiast   Feb-11-11 06:26 AM   #64 
  - Actually it was a discussion in one of the Nobel panels some years ago  dbmk   Feb-11-11 05:46 AM   #56 
  - Overpopulatoin is a huge problem no one is willing to discuss.  AlbertCat   Feb-11-11 11:39 AM   #84 
  - And At the Same Time, People Demand Medical Miracles to Extend Life  NashVegas   Feb-21-11 04:39 PM   #116 
  - The American Stonehenge  bvar22   Feb-10-11 03:07 PM   #18 
  - I'd heard of that once, but  stuntcat   Feb-10-11 03:21 PM   #19 
  - Great message but I fear number 2 because it sounds suspiciously  jwirr   Feb-10-11 04:54 PM   #25 
  - Coincidentally, human population growth looks quite similar.  progressoid   Feb-10-11 03:24 PM   #20 
  - A well-managed planet can support up to 10 billion people.  The Doctor.   Feb-10-11 04:07 PM   #21 
  - Well said.  txlibdem   Feb-12-11 10:25 AM   #100 
  - Efficiency = 1/Resilience  GliderGuider   Feb-12-11 10:51 AM   #101 
     - What happened in Egypt  txlibdem   Feb-12-11 11:09 AM   #102 
  - How does one "manage" a planet with 10 billion people???  GliderGuider   Feb-12-11 12:49 PM   #103 
     - How do we manage a planet with 10 billion people?  txlibdem   Feb-12-11 10:06 PM   #105 
        - We can't handle 5 sets of all that  The2ndWheel   Feb-21-11 11:37 AM   #109 
  - This is great! But unfortunately the CONs take away another lesson from this:  mistertrickster   Feb-10-11 04:11 PM   #22 
  - Agent Smith from "The Matrix" -  paparush   Feb-10-11 04:56 PM   #27 
  - This is the problem with evolution...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-10-11 05:27 PM   #29 
     - That's not evolution theory at all.  greiner3   Feb-10-11 06:28 PM   #30 
     - Stupidity is not a hereditary trait  bhikkhu   Feb-10-11 07:07 PM   #33 
     - While intelligence is not hereditary, parents pass along traditions/values/beliefs  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-10-11 07:29 PM   #35 
        - leading to a variety of cultures with varying levels of fitness  bhikkhu   Feb-10-11 08:38 PM   #40 
        - Who says intelligence is not hereditary?  Enthusiast   Feb-11-11 06:34 AM   #65 
           - Intelligence is most certainly at least partially inherited  AlbertCat   Feb-11-11 12:02 PM   #88 
     - Not a problem with evolution, just with humanity.  Nihil   Feb-11-11 04:51 AM   #55 
     - You're thinking of a different movie - "Idiocracy"  paparush   Feb-11-11 05:54 AM   #57 
  - There are many similiar stories in evolutionary biology;  greiner3   Feb-10-11 06:36 PM   #31 
  - Wow!  BrklynLiberal   Feb-10-11 06:38 PM   #32 
  - 41 females and one male???  James48   Feb-10-11 07:13 PM   #34 
  - 'Nah' is correct, James 48. It was FORTY one.  bertman   Feb-10-11 09:08 PM   #43 
  - Mother Nature is ruthless  Plucketeer   Feb-10-11 08:15 PM   #36 
  - K&R Awesome!!!  DRex   Feb-10-11 08:33 PM   #38 
  - Reindeer-ian catastrophe?  FailureToCommunicate   Feb-10-11 08:35 PM   #39 
  - Too obscure...  FailureToCommunicate   Feb-11-11 11:49 AM   #86 
     - Malthus the Red-Nosed Reindeer?  GliderGuider   Feb-11-11 12:53 PM   #91 
        - ...won't join in any reindeer games!  FailureToCommunicate   Feb-11-11 02:31 PM   #95 
  - K & Wow.  NYC_SKP   Feb-10-11 08:39 PM   #41 
  - Now that's an excellent teaching tool!! Thanks, tinrobot. REC. nt  bertman   Feb-10-11 09:01 PM   #42 
  - Send this to the President.  glinda   Feb-10-11 09:27 PM   #44 
  - Maybe the American reindeer used the majority of the island's resources up  readmoreoften   Feb-10-11 09:29 PM   #45 
  - +1. Excellent. nt  wtmusic   Feb-11-11 10:56 AM   #76 
  - What happens to us when our over-extended resources can't support our ever-expanding population?  baldguy   Feb-10-11 09:34 PM   #46 
  - Kick  Matilda   Feb-10-11 09:55 PM   #47 
  - Very sad story  begin_within   Feb-10-11 09:59 PM   #48 
  - K&R nt  TBF   Feb-10-11 10:24 PM   #49 
  - HUGE K & R !!!  WillyT   Feb-10-11 10:28 PM   #50 
  - K&R... I think the Reindeer is "US" humans... I think.  txlibdem   Feb-10-11 10:29 PM   #51 
  - That's it. I'm not eating anymore lichen. n/t  leeroysphitz   Feb-11-11 05:58 AM   #58 
  - K & R  cate94   Feb-11-11 05:59 AM   #59 
  - But, but...  Locrian   Feb-11-11 06:11 AM   #60 
  - You have to paint a picture for them.  Enthusiast   Feb-11-11 06:17 AM   #61 
  - I once heard Allan Watts compare  safeinOhio   Feb-11-11 07:42 AM   #66 
  - I remember that one.  Enthusiast   Feb-11-11 03:03 PM   #96 
  - Reminds me of the story of Easter Island.  Lasher   Feb-11-11 07:50 AM   #67 
  - Oh SNAP!  meegbear   Feb-11-11 08:08 AM   #68 
  - This will never happen to humans because the FREE MARKET will take care of us!  RandomKoolzip   Feb-11-11 08:52 AM   #71 
  - I read through this thread and I am amazed.  Indydem   Feb-11-11 09:48 AM   #72 
  - To those of us who get the analogy  GliderGuider   Feb-11-11 09:52 AM   #74 
  - Speaking of arrogance...  AlbertCat   Feb-11-11 12:12 PM   #89 
  - Humans have the capacity to recognize and practice resource management.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-21-11 12:03 PM   #110 
     - The capacity, but not the propensity. n/t  GliderGuider   Feb-21-11 12:37 PM   #113 
  - great post. nt  naaman fletcher   Feb-11-11 11:00 AM   #77 
  - More food or GM food only exacerbates the population problem  ozone_man   Feb-11-11 11:11 AM   #78 
  - We should learn from this. n.t.  RoccoR5955   Feb-11-11 10:28 AM   #75 
  - Mention ZERO POPULATION GROWTH to anyone under 40 today  cyberpj   Feb-11-11 11:17 AM   #79 
  - Yet without consciously seeking it, we are approaching maintenence levels of birth rates already.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-21-11 12:05 PM   #111 
     - We are?  GliderGuider   Feb-21-11 12:39 PM   #114 
  - Analagous to what happened on Easter Island.  stubtoe   Feb-11-11 11:26 AM   #80 
  - This is another reason why regulated hunting is needed  LynneSin   Feb-11-11 11:36 AM   #82 
  - Mmmmm, long pig. nt  NickB79   Feb-11-11 11:38 AM   #83 
  - Tastes like chicken n/t  Strelnikov_   Feb-12-11 08:13 PM   #104 
  - Its not really about hunting...  tinrobot   Feb-11-11 01:47 PM   #94 
  - I know what it's about  LynneSin   Feb-11-11 03:13 PM   #97 
  - They shouldn't have been on that island to begin with.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-21-11 12:06 PM   #112 
  - K&R  AldebTX   Feb-11-11 11:45 AM   #85 
  - K&R.  Jankyn   Feb-11-11 11:56 AM   #87 
  - K&R  geardaddy   Feb-11-11 12:30 PM   #90 
  - Key difference: reindeer don't farm  WatsonT   Feb-21-11 09:28 AM   #106 
     - Good point.... Humans have the ability to farm,  GliderGuider   Feb-21-11 09:43 AM   #107 
        - People have been predicting  WatsonT   Feb-21-11 03:51 PM   #115 
           - I'm not predicting a catastrophe  GliderGuider   Feb-21-11 05:11 PM   #117 
           - I trust in the ingenuity of people  WatsonT   Feb-21-11 07:05 PM   #118 
           - Seems like you skipped right over the main point  The2ndWheel   Feb-21-11 07:39 PM   #119 
              - ty  stuntcat   Feb-22-11 11:04 AM   #121 
 

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