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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 08:09 PM
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23. The United States built 100 reactors in less than 30 years.
Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 08:11 PM by NNadir
They didn't cost the equivalent of $10 billion (2010) dollars each.

Some did, but usually that was because of trying to address the specious objections of people who couldn't care less about how many deaths occur in actual practice because of normally operating coal plants, but wanted to discuss every imaginable risk of a nuclear plant.

The survivors of the people who died as a result would not be amused if they really understood what happened.

I am always amused when people tell me that what has already occurred is impossible.

The anti-nuke community destroyed the world's nuclear manufacturing infrastructure and then, like Volunteer firemen/arsonists showing up at fires they started hoping to be declared heros, want to announce that nuclear energy is "too expensive."

The same people have been announcing for 50 years that solar energy will soon competitive with the grid because of mass production. Guess what? That's about as accurate as reports that Jesus will soon return.

Last year India forged a reactor head for it's 500 MWe fast breeder reactor using indigenous manufacturing. It was way under budget. They have therefore, now, the experience to manufacture the next six they plan.

We can either declare that gas and coal are "cheap" because we don't require them to meet nuclear standards for safety - they are for instance allowed to dump their waste in human flesh for free - or we can rebuild the destroyed nuclear infrastructure.

Right now we have very few nuclear engineering schools in this country. A B.S. nuclear engineer's median salary is about $75,000/year, so this is somewhat strange. It doesn't bode well for our future generations, but it's not like they're losing sleep over this in other parts of the world. (I would be very happy and proud if one of my two sons pursues this fine and honorable career.)

The nation in the world with the largest positive balance of payments surplus - that would be China - has announced it will build 200 reactors in the next 20 years. They now have 24 under active construction, so it's hard to argue that they're lying. They started a fast breeder up just two months ago.

They have announced an intention to build 500 reactors by 2050. They couldn't care less what Westerners picking lint out of their navels think about their plans.
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  -Dutch Energy Company Announces the Doubling of its Nuclear Build Proposal. NNadir  Sep-07-10 08:05 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-10 08:25 PM   #1 
  - the name plate....  DrGregory   Sep-07-10 10:02 PM   #2 
  - Still using faulty models for describing the system, eh?  kristopher   Sep-08-10 03:48 AM   #3 
     - Interesting analogy  Dead_Parrot   Sep-08-10 04:28 AM   #4 
     - No power plant generates 100% of the time.  kristopher   Sep-08-10 04:38 AM   #5 
        - Good to hear  Dead_Parrot   Sep-08-10 05:10 AM   #6 
     - I guess the Dutch, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Japanese,and Indians  NNadir   Sep-08-10 06:46 AM   #7 
        - ROFLMAO  kristopher   Sep-08-10 07:42 AM   #8 
           - Also at the same website:  Dogmudgeon   Sep-08-10 08:05 AM   #10 
              - I have always said that anti-nukes are mystics. Thanks for the verification.  NNadir   Sep-08-10 09:13 AM   #11 
              - The graph tallying nuclear power thru 2056 is from a pronuclear business report.  kristopher   Sep-08-10 02:43 PM   #12 
                 - That's sounds reasonable  Dead_Parrot   Sep-08-10 04:06 PM   #13 
  - The Dutch just really just want a nucular bomb  Dogmudgeon   Sep-08-10 07:57 AM   #9 
  - Somebody missheard  Dead_Parrot   Sep-08-10 04:07 PM   #14 
     - Ba-dah-bump!  NNadir   Sep-09-10 07:18 AM   #15 
  - A key question for confident nuclear power advocates  Terry in Austin   Sep-09-10 03:59 PM   #16 
     - This is relatively easy to calculate.  NNadir   Sep-09-10 06:50 PM   #17 
        - People don't consume "on a continuous basis" so what about peaking power?  kristopher   Sep-10-10 01:00 AM   #18 
        - I'm not going to wade through continuous crap from Mark V. Jacobson.  NNadir   Sep-10-10 07:01 AM   #19 
           - Please provide one study that says a renewable energy grid cannot do the same thing  kristopher   Sep-10-10 07:19 AM   #20 
              - Please show me one renewable grid on the entire planet that supplies 100% of ANY nation's grid.  NNadir   Sep-10-10 07:48 PM   #22 
                 - No grids that are mostly renewables  DrGregory   Sep-10-10 11:29 PM   #28 
                 - In a long list of stupid arguments from you that is the dumbest.  kristopher   Sep-11-10 04:28 PM   #32 
                    - Can you say what is wrong??  DrGregory   Sep-11-10 06:39 PM   #34 
        - At least 5,000 reactors, then  Terry in Austin   Sep-10-10 04:41 PM   #21 
        - The United States built 100 reactors in less than 30 years.  NNadir   Sep-10-10 08:09 PM   #23 
        - Got a ways to go then, don't we?  Terry in Austin   Sep-10-10 09:08 PM   #25 
        - Same's true for everything else  Dead_Parrot   Sep-10-10 10:00 PM   #26 
        - Yes indeed. And now we come to the bottom line  Terry in Austin   Sep-12-10 06:06 PM   #37 
        - $20 'Trillion - where did you get that number?  DrGregory   Sep-10-10 11:22 PM   #27 
           - Sticking with the premise  Terry in Austin   Sep-12-10 05:37 PM   #35 
        - Well, the US built a lot more reactors than that, actually  NickB79   Sep-11-10 02:12 PM   #30 
        - Only in USA  DrGregory   Sep-11-10 02:45 PM   #31 
           - Two of the three R's  Terry in Austin   Sep-12-10 05:51 PM   #36 
        - I think its you thats is doing most of the drooling here  madokie   Sep-10-10 08:10 PM   #24 
           - "think of the cost in money, time and CO2 being released into the atmosphere just building those"  NickB79   Sep-11-10 02:10 PM   #29 
              - Yes - that is precisely wht we can predict.  kristopher   Sep-11-10 04:32 PM   #33 
                 - Speaking of things we can predict ...  Nihil   Sep-13-10 07:19 AM   #38 
                    - With so many falsehoods repeated so often by nuclear supporters  kristopher   Sep-13-10 11:55 AM   #39 

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