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Tue Oct-26-10 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #65 |
| 68. No Kristopher, it is about humility |
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It is about accepting the opinions of people that disagree with you because you realize that you might be wrong.
I suspect, however, that thought has never once crossed your mind...
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| -DOE explains why the nuclear industry collapsed in 1974 |
bananas |
Sep-03-10 04:08 PM |
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Thanks good info to have! |
maryf |
Sep-03-10 04:17 PM |
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International comparison |
zipplewrath |
Sep-03-10 04:37 PM |
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Certain things are relative |
jberryhill |
Sep-03-10 05:08 PM |
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About the same |
bananas |
Sep-03-10 05:15 PM |
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those countries are primarily command and control economies |
greenman3610 |
Sep-03-10 07:47 PM |
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Clean energy isn't currently competitive with dirty energy. |
joshcryer |
Oct-21-10 10:27 PM |
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That isn't true. |
kristopher |
Oct-21-10 11:19 PM |
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Got a date when this will happen? |
joshcryer |
Oct-22-10 02:06 AM |
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End coal subsidies and the date is tomorrow. |
Radical Activist |
Oct-24-10 06:20 PM |
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With all the subsidies coal and oil receive each year |
txlibdem |
Oct-24-10 07:48 PM |
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There are a lot of areas where the EIA can be criticized, but nuclear isn't one of them... |
kristopher |
Oct-24-10 10:19 PM |
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The article you cited came to simplistic conclusions |
txlibdem |
Oct-25-10 07:58 AM |
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The cost issue is what killed it. |
kristopher |
Oct-25-10 01:54 PM |
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I have a hard time telling the two of you apart sometimes. Sorry about that. |
txlibdem |
Oct-26-10 07:46 AM |
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History has already rendered a verdict - stop burying your head in the sand |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 08:28 AM |
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Opinion piece |
txlibdem |
Oct-26-10 12:05 PM |
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No, it isn't opinion, it is a straight accounting of the cost claims. |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 01:03 PM |
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Yes it is an opinion |
Nederland |
Oct-26-10 02:29 PM |
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Luckily we don't need to wait for it to play out this time. |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 02:49 PM |
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And that is a good thing |
Nederland |
Oct-26-10 02:56 PM |
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trial period is over as it was supposed to have helped by now - 2010 |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 03:04 PM |
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And Lovins predicted renewables would provide 30% of our energy by 2000 |
Nederland |
Oct-26-10 05:26 PM |
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Thank your friend Reagan for the difference... |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 05:45 PM |
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So who gave you a pointy hat... |
Nederland |
Oct-26-10 06:10 PM |
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It isn't about "cred" it is about values. |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 06:21 PM |
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No Kristopher, it is about humility |
Nederland |
Oct-26-10 08:32 PM |
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It is an opinion, and not a very informed opinion for that matter |
txlibdem |
Oct-26-10 08:59 PM |
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Nah, you need to build 190,000 turbines a year... |
joshcryer |
Oct-26-10 10:11 PM |
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Yeah, too cheap to meter |
OutNow |
Sep-03-10 05:02 PM |
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You gotta be kidding.... |
DrGregory |
Sep-04-10 06:39 AM |
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Yet another wonderful example of your thinking; thank you so much. |
kristopher |
Oct-23-10 06:06 PM |
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Apparently the more-economic choices were coal and NG |
phantom power |
Sep-03-10 05:11 PM |
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The most economic choices were efficiency and demand reduction |
bananas |
Sep-12-10 03:02 AM |
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That does not refute that coal and NG are preferred solutions. |
joshcryer |
Oct-21-10 10:06 PM |
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Sure it does |
kristopher |
Oct-21-10 11:28 PM |
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"Renewables are already competitive with fossil fuels" |
joshcryer |
Oct-22-10 02:05 AM |
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kick. nt |
bananas |
Sep-12-10 02:53 AM |
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Chart of reactor orders per year - fell like a rock in 1974 |
bananas |
Oct-13-10 05:07 PM |
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So what if nuclear only buys 5% the amount of carbon reduction as efficiency? Who cares? |
kristopher |
Oct-21-10 04:16 PM |
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kick. nt |
bananas |
Oct-21-10 11:45 AM |
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This report gets basic facts wrong |
Nederland |
Oct-21-10 10:59 PM |
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Standard and unsupportable nuclear industry propaganda |
kristopher |
Oct-21-10 11:22 PM |
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Unsupportable? |
Nederland |
Oct-21-10 11:35 PM |
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And the explanation for the negative learning curve also found in France's program? |
kristopher |
Oct-22-10 12:03 AM |
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Cherry picking is theoretically possible |
Nederland |
Oct-22-10 12:27 AM |
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The study I cited above conclusively disproves your thesis. |
kristopher |
Oct-22-10 11:41 AM |
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REALLY??? |
DrGregory |
Oct-22-10 10:59 PM |
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When you don't have the truth on your side, create a strawman, eh? |
kristopher |
Oct-23-10 05:49 PM |
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Evidently you don't understand "fault tolerant" |
DrGregory |
Oct-23-10 11:03 PM |
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There were no "improvements in safety" |
Nederland |
Oct-23-10 11:11 PM |
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CONCUR!!! |
DrGregory |
Oct-23-10 11:50 PM |
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EXACTLY!!! |
DrGregory |
Oct-21-10 11:51 PM |
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LOL - you're blaming it on anti-war protestors! |
bananas |
Oct-24-10 07:05 AM |
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Ummmm... |
Nederland |
Oct-24-10 02:33 PM |
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They were right about both |
bananas |
Oct-26-10 06:48 PM |
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I doubt that very much |
Nederland |
Oct-27-10 04:40 PM |
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Nuclear collapsed from arrogant incompetence, ... |
CRH |
Oct-22-10 03:08 PM |
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REALLY???? |
DrGregory |
Oct-22-10 10:39 PM |
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Other Articles support the Unit 2 reactor vessel at San Onofre, |
CRH |
Oct-23-10 12:46 PM |
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And what happens when you have circular symmetry.... |
DrGregory |
Oct-23-10 10:41 PM |
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The vessel is installed inside a building |
caraher |
Oct-24-10 06:35 AM |
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When I read some of the posts like what you're replying too |
madokie |
Oct-24-10 08:20 AM |
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Evidently someone doesn't understand "symmetry" |
DrGregory |
Oct-24-10 03:41 PM |
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VACUOUS concerns |
DrGregory |
Oct-24-10 03:23 PM |
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"WHERE did you get the idea that I am denying they goofed." from post 28 |
caraher |
Oct-25-10 03:46 PM |
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But..but..but...what about hippies and Greenpeace? We were told they done it! |
jpak |
Oct-24-10 11:38 AM |
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Well, that's what Greenpeace likes to claim, isn't it? (nt) |
Nederland |
Oct-24-10 02:35 PM |
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I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that they were being litigated into bankruptcy... |
PavePusher |
Oct-26-10 11:40 AM |
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No, it didn't. |
kristopher |
Oct-26-10 01:04 PM |
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What was the cause then? |
Nederland |
Oct-26-10 02:57 PM |
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*Crickets* (nt) |
Nederland |
Oct-27-10 02:09 PM |
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Not in 1974 |
bananas |
Oct-26-10 07:29 PM |
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Were there regulatory changes that may have slowed/stopped the construction of those plants? |
PavePusher |
Oct-27-10 12:16 AM |
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In 1974 the country was reeling from the first oil embargo... |
kristopher |
Oct-27-10 01:57 PM |
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Projected demand did not materialize |
Nederland |
Oct-27-10 02:24 PM |
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litigated into bankruptcy? Got any proof |
Kolesar |
Oct-27-10 02:00 PM |
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