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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:08 PM
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16. coal gas and oil is not our only options
104 soon to be 103 is what we have here. btw What part of what I said is untrue? Very energy intensive getting the ore out of the ground and into fuel grade, considering all that nuclear is questionable if it is co2 break even let alone co2 free. A lot of energy needed to keep it away from all things living for a long long time for it to be co2 free after its been used. Hey man you can believe whatever you want to believe but I'm not buying any of the bullshit put out by the nuclear power industry, nor the agency charged with overseeing them. What about the mafia and the disposing of some of the waste from Europe that has suspectedly been going on for years now, the drums washing up on shore of somalia.
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  -TVA Has Lost $50 Million Cutting Brown's Ferry Output - Tennessee River Too Hot To Cool Plant hatrack  Aug-23-10 12:24 PM   #0 
  - It sucks but the river matters more.  aquart   Aug-23-10 12:35 PM   #1 
  - I knew this would happen somewhere eventually  EC   Aug-23-10 12:40 PM   #2 
  - Don't worry NNadir will respond  The Croquist   Aug-23-10 01:30 PM   #7 
  - You know that basically all forms of concentrated electricity require some kind of coolant, right?  TheWraith   Aug-23-10 04:03 PM   #8 
  - In many of those cases a retaining pond is sufficient  EC   Aug-23-10 04:16 PM   #9 
     - A nuclear plant doesn't need a "whole lake or river" either.  TheWraith   Aug-23-10 04:51 PM   #10 
     - Nuclear requires more water than coal or gas for the same size plant  bananas   Aug-23-10 06:34 PM   #12 
     - When you can show me a solar panel producing 2 gigawatts continuously every second of every day...  TheWraith   Aug-24-10 12:59 PM   #13 
     - Correct  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 10:38 PM   #21 
        - That talking point has been thoroughly debunked  bananas   Aug-25-10 09:15 AM   #28 
        - You can't debunk physics by making things up.  TheWraith   Aug-25-10 09:47 AM   #29 
        - incorrect  AlecBGreen   Aug-25-10 02:02 PM   #34 
           - did some more searching  AlecBGreen   Aug-25-10 02:38 PM   #35 
              - Yup - even a desert only reflects about 30%  bananas   Aug-25-10 05:34 PM   #37 
                 - you need to go beyond grade-school physics  DrGregory   Aug-27-10 02:04 PM   #44 
                    - I don't think you understand the physics at all  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-12-10 08:10 AM   #46 
                       - Not quite  DrGregory   Sep-12-10 03:06 PM   #47 
                       - I do understand the physics...  DrGregory   Sep-12-10 03:14 PM   #48 
                          - If there was no reradiation, then the earth would heat up an infinite amount  muriel_volestrangler   Sep-12-10 03:36 PM   #49 
                          - Yup - too many basic errors  bananas   Sep-13-10 06:25 PM   #51 
                          - KICK  kristopher   Sep-13-10 11:57 AM   #50 
                          - Nope - let me try to explain this as simply as possible  bananas   Sep-14-10 10:26 AM   #52 
                             - +1  kristopher   Sep-17-10 12:12 AM   #53 
                                - kick. nt  bananas   Sep-17-10 02:26 AM   #54 
     - PV requires LOTS of water  XemaSab   Aug-24-10 08:50 PM   #17 
     - Where did you learn to do arithmetic  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 10:30 PM   #20 
     - LOL - "Steve Kidd is Director of Strategy & Research at the World Nuclear Association"  bananas   Aug-25-10 08:00 AM   #27 
     - 2002 EPRI report: "Water & Sustainability (Volume 3): U.S. Water Consumption for Power Production —  bananas   Aug-25-10 09:50 AM   #30 
        - Table S–1, fixed-width font  bananas   Aug-25-10 12:44 PM   #32 
           - The table shows that nuclear plants use much more water, regardless of cooling method.  bananas   Aug-25-10 12:46 PM   #33 
     - Correct arithmetic  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 10:51 PM   #22 
     - Commonwealth Edison  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 11:04 PM   #24 
     - Correct  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 11:18 PM   #25 
  - sanme old  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 09:51 PM   #19 
  - So the river water is too warm to effectively cool the reactors?  liberal N proud   Aug-23-10 12:52 PM   #3 
  - It's local and temporary. On the other hand,  Jackpine Radical   Aug-23-10 01:04 PM   #4 
  - NO.,..  DrGregory   Aug-27-10 01:50 PM   #43 
  - Have there been any reports from coal-fired plants in the region?  NickB79   Aug-23-10 01:09 PM   #5 
  - It only matters with nuclear  Dogmudgeon   Aug-23-10 01:22 PM   #6 
  - It matters with nuclear power plants because they require a larger supply of coolant  madokie   Aug-23-10 04:52 PM   #11 
  - Well, pretty much everything you just said is untrue, but feel free to keep believing.  TheWraith   Aug-24-10 01:04 PM   #14 
  - coal gas and oil is not our only options  madokie   Aug-24-10 07:08 PM   #16 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 09:40 PM   #18 
     - and what medical waste is this you speak of  madokie   Aug-25-10 06:34 AM   #26 
        - I'm going by the staments of Francesco Fonti...  Dead_Parrot   Aug-25-10 04:39 PM   #36 
           - Since this is something that worries me  madokie   Aug-26-10 07:21 AM   #38 
              - Fair enough...  Dead_Parrot   Aug-26-10 11:11 PM   #41 
                 - What I'm finding is it all goes back to the Ndrangheta turncoat you mentioned  madokie   Aug-27-10 08:13 AM   #42 
     - The founder of Greenpeace disagrees with you.  TheWraith   Aug-25-10 10:42 AM   #31 
     - storage is co2 emitting???  DrGregory   Aug-26-10 12:33 PM   #40 
  - WRONG!!  DrGregory   Aug-24-10 10:59 PM   #23 
  - matters with coal too  DrGregory   Aug-26-10 11:55 AM   #39 
  - It's not a problem for the plant; only the environment  DrGregory   Aug-27-10 02:12 PM   #45 
  - No one could have imagined  pscot   Aug-24-10 02:17 PM   #15 
 

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