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5. What part of growth will not remain exponential. Law of large numbers.
In 2000 wind power growth rate was 37% annually.
By 2008 that had dropped to 24% annually.
The wind lobby estimate for growth rate in 2015 will be 16% annually.

No system continues to grow exponentially forever.

Growing 38% on such a small base is horrible.

US power consumption is 3816 TWh annually. So solar to supply just 1% of that (at 17% capacity factor) would require 25GW.

So even if growth rate as a % remained static (and it will decline it always declines) it would take about 6 years before solar produces 1% of power grid demand.
Of course that ignores that demand is projected to grow by about 3% (19% over 6 years). So based on growing demand it is more like 7-8 years before solar produces a mere 1% of electrical power.

Solar won't continue to grow at 38% annually. All we need to do is look at wind (and slowing growth %). Wind is roughly a decade ahead of solar.



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  -US Solar Sees 38% Growth in PV Capacity in 2009 (during the Great Recession) jpak  Apr-18-10 11:29 AM   #0 
  - We have huge solar capacity here - endless fucking sun, and endless  kestrel91316   Apr-18-10 11:34 AM   #1 
  - Excellent news. n/t  NYC_SKP   Apr-18-10 11:52 AM   #2 
  - A "whole" 450MW peak @ 17% capacity factor = 78MW average output.  Statistical   Apr-18-10 11:58 AM   #3 
  - The stupid lame solar- is-tiny-and -can't-grow-any- bigger red herring argument shows its ass again  jpak   Apr-18-10 12:21 PM   #4 
     - What part of growth will not remain exponential. Law of large numbers.  Statistical   Apr-18-10 01:02 PM   #5 
        - but...but..but...you said solar was TINY - and thus not subject to the Law of Large #'s  jpak   Apr-18-10 01:28 PM   #7 
        - PV modules need silver.  joshcryer   Apr-18-10 04:24 PM   #12 
        - Oh yeah - global wind power capacity ROSE by 3!% in 2009 - looks like you are wrong  jpak   Apr-18-10 01:39 PM   #9 
        - Why are you being so derisive?  joshcryer   Apr-18-10 04:14 PM   #10 
           - Because I'm sick and tired about all the lies and disinformation about renewables  jpak   Apr-18-10 04:28 PM   #13 
        - Interesting point.  joshcryer   Apr-18-10 04:14 PM   #11 
  - Some math: 38% of next to nothing is still next to nothing.  NNadir   Apr-18-10 01:08 PM   #6 
     - more ambien-induced ravings signifying nothing  jpak   Apr-18-10 01:32 PM   #8 
 

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