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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 01:58 PM
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13. Sure, EDF is in the pocket of "Big Coal"
Just like the Union of Concerned Scientists, just like the Obama administration

Anyone who disagrees with you is obviously on the take.

http://www.wwf.org.au/news/wwf-joins-worlds-leading-env... /

WWF joins world's leading environment proponents in CCS call

15 Apr 2008

WWF has joined some of the world's leading environment proponents in calling for the rapid deployment of carbon capture and storage (CCS) demonstration plants.

The conservation organisation says it must be determined as a matter of urgency whether the technology works or not, and whether it will play a role in the world's response to climate change.

"If we reach a three-degree rise in temperature, 35 per cent of species will become extinct. WWF has a responsibility to try to prevent this from happening, which means supporting a range of climate change solutions," said WWF-Australia CEO Greg Bourne.

"Rapid deployment of demonstration plants is necessary to determine whether CCS is practical for broad application, and if it doesn't work we need to know even sooner."

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  -'Clean Coal' - Fact Or Fiction Bobbieo  Apr-11-10 01:01 AM   #0 
  - yes, it's a fiction.  PDJane   Apr-11-10 01:07 AM   #1 
  - I haven't seen any evidence for clean coal.  Ozymanithrax   Apr-11-10 01:30 AM   #2 
  - No such thing.  joshcryer   Apr-11-10 04:37 AM   #3 
  - Why is everything either "black" or "white" is so many people's eyes?  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 09:39 AM   #4 
  - I would have less of a problem with it if they called it "low carbon coal".  Statistical   Apr-11-10 09:43 AM   #5 
  - "The term clean coal is simply dishonest."  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 12:32 PM   #6 
     - You seem like a fair minded person I just think you are not comprehending the scale.  Statistical   Apr-12-10 08:38 AM   #33 
  - Eliminating coal overnight was never the point.  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 01:11 PM   #8 
     - You've missed the point entirely  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 01:28 PM   #9 
        - Thanks for the coal lobby POV, and the kindergarten primer on CCS  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 01:38 PM   #11 
           - Sure, EDF is in the pocket of "Big Coal"  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 01:58 PM   #13 
              - You mean The Union of Concerned Scientists, whose president isn't a scientist?  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 02:04 PM   #15 
                 - And (naturally) the IPCC is on the take as well. (Right?)  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 02:23 PM   #18 
                    - No, climate change skeptics use data that's five years old  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 02:46 PM   #19 
                       - That's why organizations are calling for full-scale R&D efforts  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 02:49 PM   #20 
                          - Or we could invest in technologies which show promise.  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 02:56 PM   #21 
                             - Then we're at an end  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 03:09 PM   #22 
                                - Hansen only believes in agricultural CCS as a temporary fix  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 03:19 PM   #23 
                                   - You're misrepresenting Hansen's position  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 03:33 PM   #24 
                                      - From 2008 - his position has changed considerably since  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 03:39 PM   #25 
                                         - Here's your quote  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 04:26 PM   #26 
                                            - I owe you one. nt  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 04:27 PM   #27 
                                            - I think his stance is a bit more nuanced than that quote suggests  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 05:03 PM   #29 
                                            - He is very hard line about coal, and he believes we have only a few decades to do it.  joshcryer   Apr-11-10 04:44 PM   #28 
                                               - Right, I realize this  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 06:21 PM   #30 
                                                  - Yeah, I read that, I've read all of his papers.  joshcryer   Apr-11-10 07:13 PM   #31 
                                                     - OK, that's not how I read it  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-12-10 08:11 AM   #32 
  - Fiction.  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 01:07 PM   #7 
  - I believe you misread the column  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 01:37 PM   #10 
     - Nope.  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 01:40 PM   #12 
        - I suspect he understands the IGCC process  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-11-10 02:03 PM   #14 
           - He's made it very clear he doesn't understand the process.  wtmusic   Apr-11-10 02:07 PM   #16 
  - What about the process of exctracting coal?  tinrobot   Apr-11-10 02:17 PM   #17 
  - It's a misleading label.  Ready4Change   Apr-13-10 05:49 PM   #34 
 

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