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Reply #47: I've read the papers on the cloud models, I find nothing particularly bad about them. [View All]

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 09:44 AM
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47. I've read the papers on the cloud models, I find nothing particularly bad about them.
Therefore they're "pretty good." This is not an "article of faith" so much optimism that they'll be done with their models in time for AR5.

The rest of what you say, I don't know what to say. You fail to realize that AGW was *not detectable* from background noise until 15 years ago.

The 20th century temperature variance is explained by various reasons, for one, the early industrial pollution which caused a haze caused a lot of cooling where temperatures were being measured. In any case, this is why I am looking at the satellite record. We have more than a decade of satellite data, in fact, satellite data throughout the whole period in which AGW was detectable from background noise.
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