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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:19 PM
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9. Of course, the IEA, normally respected in denialist circles, will now be thrown under the bus.
If the assessment doesn't meet ones bias, then throw out the data!
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  -IEA Report - Unless there is an "energy revolution," the planet will heat up by about 6C by 2030 OKIsItJustMe  Nov-10-09 11:24 AM   #0 
  - I think even that prediction is conservative.  Zoeisright   Nov-10-09 11:27 AM   #1 
  - That seems to be the case  n2doc   Nov-10-09 02:22 PM   #22 
     - I think it's sloppy reporting (see below)  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:33 PM   #24 
        - good catch!  n2doc   Nov-10-09 02:54 PM   #28 
  - Pretty bold prediction  Nederland   Nov-10-09 11:32 AM   #2 
  - I think it's probably back loaded to some extent, haven't yet read the report.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 01:30 PM   #13 
  - Already near the 3.0C threshold?  Nederland   Nov-10-09 04:50 PM   #36 
     - CO2 takes time to have an effect, the best plans already set us at 3.0C if we end emissions by 2020.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 11:04 PM   #45 
  - I think it may be sloppy reporting on TIME's part  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:00 PM   #19 
     - They changed 'may' to 'will.'  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 11:05 PM   #47 
  - Sometime ago I saw the documentary and then read the book "6 Degrees"  Louisiana1976   Nov-10-09 11:37 AM   #3 
  - Remember From Last Year All The PO Deniers Claiming That All Was Fine  ProleNoMore   Nov-10-09 11:46 AM   #4 
  - Of course, the IEA, normally respected in denialist circles, will now be thrown under the bus.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 01:19 PM   #9 
     - Seems To Be A Trend  ProleNoMore   Nov-10-09 01:21 PM   #10 
  - 6 degrees C by 2030?  AlecBGreen   Nov-10-09 12:53 PM   #5 
  - Exponential growth. In the next 16 years we will release as much as in the past 150.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 01:10 PM   #7 
  - OK, so, lets look at a different graph  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 01:36 PM   #14 
  - hmm  AlecBGreen   Nov-10-09 01:50 PM   #17 
  - Try physically tracing the line with your mouse (or finger)  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:35 PM   #25 
     - i realize its there  AlecBGreen   Nov-10-09 05:16 PM   #38 
  - Is the relationship between temperature and CO2 linear? (nt)  Nederland   Nov-10-09 04:49 PM   #35 
     - there appears to be a direct relationship bw temp & co2  AlecBGreen   Nov-10-09 05:18 PM   #39 
     - Yes, I know that  Nederland   Nov-10-09 06:22 PM   #42 
     - No, it's logarithmic. nt  bananas   Nov-10-09 05:38 PM   #41 
        - Logarithmic which way?  Nederland   Nov-11-09 12:01 PM   #52 
           - The good way - each added co2 molecule has less effect than the previous - here's two graphs  bananas   Nov-11-09 10:13 PM   #57 
              - Thanks! (nt)  Nederland   Nov-12-09 10:06 AM   #58 
  - I think it's sloppy reporting (see above)  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:30 PM   #23 
     - yeah, 2 glaring errors in the next sentence  AlecBGreen   Nov-10-09 05:23 PM   #40 
        - If you burn your house down  pscot   Nov-10-09 09:20 PM   #43 
        - perhaps we are arguing semantics  AlecBGreen   Nov-11-09 01:18 PM   #54 
        - "No damage is irreparable."  NickB79   Nov-10-09 09:35 PM   #44 
           - I should clarify  AlecBGreen   Nov-11-09 01:17 PM   #53 
              - It's going to be like a picnic  pscot   Nov-11-09 02:29 PM   #55 
  - Time for action then  cedric   Nov-10-09 01:01 PM   #6 
  - It's not time until our masters say it's time.  GliderGuider   Nov-10-09 01:11 PM   #8 
     - They're saying it's time. They're saying $10 trillion must be spent immediately on green energy.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 01:21 PM   #11 
        - You're not half cynical enough yet.  GliderGuider   Nov-10-09 01:30 PM   #12 
           - Perhaps youre just a tad too cynical at this point  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 01:42 PM   #15 
              - We've known "it's time" for forty years already.  GliderGuider   Nov-10-09 01:50 PM   #16 
                 - Some have warned about the Greenhouse Effect for 40 years  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:12 PM   #21 
                 - Timeline on awareness of greenhouse issue  kristopher   Nov-10-09 02:52 PM   #26 
                 - Right. I'm well aware of this timeline  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:55 PM   #29 
                    - Sure it is.  kristopher   Nov-10-09 03:28 PM   #30 
                       - The newspaper account also does not effectively establish a date  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 03:55 PM   #32 
                       - You pick screwy points to make an issue of.  kristopher   Nov-10-09 04:35 PM   #34 
                          - 1991 IPCC wasn't even committed to making a statement about CO2 and AGW.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 11:08 PM   #49 
                       - There was no consensus until the data was seperate from noise.  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 11:07 PM   #48 
                 - An interesting article from 1982  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 02:53 PM   #27 
                    - From IPCC 1991 (FAR):  joshcryer   Nov-10-09 11:10 PM   #50 
                 - That's an interesting use of the term "known" (nt)  Nederland   Nov-10-09 04:53 PM   #37 
                 - Apologies for my 1991 date, I meant 1990 obviously:  joshcryer   Nov-11-09 05:07 AM   #51 
  - Press Release: The time has come to make the hard choices  OKIsItJustMe   Nov-10-09 01:52 PM   #18 
  - "the rate of global warming considered manageable"  The2ndWheel   Nov-10-09 02:02 PM   #20 
  - A self-fulfilling prophecy  wtmusic   Nov-11-09 03:10 PM   #56 
  - Birol is tap-dancing on a tightwire  Terry in Austin   Nov-10-09 03:47 PM   #31 
  - The clog in the toilet is going to be China and India  Willson1945   Nov-10-09 04:33 PM   #33 
  - That would be about 10 degrees F  Kablooie   Nov-10-09 11:05 PM   #46 
 

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