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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:11 PM
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54. I disagree.
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 01:11 PM by kristopher
He didn't "post a link to a blog post", he posted a graph. There is a distinct difference and the communication failure falls on you not specifing your meaning.

Secondarily, the idea that "blog science" is somehow forbidden is absolutely absurd. How many times have you linked to blog sites that debunk climate deniers using "blog science" and expected people to accept the arguments presents? Hell, in this thread Josh did it two or three times and I didn't see you acting like a jerk about it.
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  -Potsdam Institute Study - Minimum Two-Meter Sea-Level Rise Now Almost Unstoppable - Reuters hatrack  Sep-30-09 12:22 PM   #0 
  - IOW, real estate that sits less than 5 ft above sea level is an exceptionally  kestrel91316   Sep-30-09 12:26 PM   #1 
  - Ummm.....a lot of my state.  Lochloosa   Sep-30-09 01:21 PM   #10 
     - Yep.  kestrel91316   Sep-30-09 01:47 PM   #11 
  - The picture just gets darker and darker, doesn't it? nt  GliderGuider   Sep-30-09 12:29 PM   #2 
  - Of course, I haven't been toiling here in order to audition for the role of Mr. Sunshine . . .  hatrack   Sep-30-09 12:43 PM   #5 
     - The way we've set things up, it's not "won't", but "can't".  GliderGuider   Sep-30-09 12:54 PM   #6 
        - As thunder rising said yesterday:  XemaSab   Sep-30-09 01:16 PM   #8 
        - Every other ecology finds balance  tinrobot   Sep-30-09 01:49 PM   #12 
           - Why do you think people are worried about swine flu and bird flu  RaleighNCDUer   Sep-30-09 03:48 PM   #21 
  - There surely are ways to reduce CO2  Richard D   Sep-30-09 12:38 PM   #3 
  - These are the kind of news stories that make me hope  bain_sidhe   Sep-30-09 12:40 PM   #4 
  - He's wrong.  RaleighNCDUer   Sep-30-09 12:56 PM   #7 
  - Underestimation may be better described as overly tentative.  joshcryer   Sep-30-09 02:26 PM   #14 
  - Except of course, when they overestimate things...  Nederland   Sep-30-09 02:34 PM   #15 
     - Personally, I think the jury is still out on the 2.5 temp rise. As your chart  RaleighNCDUer   Sep-30-09 03:01 PM   #17 
     - Methane only stays in the atmosphere for 7 years  Nederland   Sep-30-09 03:10 PM   #18 
        - Yes, but there are gigatons of methane locked away.  NickB79   Oct-02-09 04:17 AM   #49 
           - A local effect must be considered, too. It's one thing for it to be released in the tropics...  joshcryer   Oct-02-09 05:22 AM   #50 
     - Eh, why bother with peer-review when you can just turn to blog science?  Viking12   Sep-30-09 03:34 PM   #19 
     - Learn to read  Nederland   Sep-30-09 04:06 PM   #23 
        - Just read the fuckin blog post you link. Pielke admits he just made up numbers base on how he reads  Viking12   Sep-30-09 04:14 PM   #25 
        - I never posted a link to a blog post  Nederland   Sep-30-09 05:02 PM   #28 
           - Really? What's the origin of that graph in your post, #15?  Viking12   Sep-30-09 06:21 PM   #29 
              - If you have a problem with the graph...  Nederland   Sep-30-09 11:48 PM   #31 
                 - You're denying that graph comes from a blog?  Viking12   Oct-01-09 06:42 AM   #33 
                    - Finally  Nederland   Oct-01-09 08:15 AM   #34 
                       - Why should I waste my time on "blog science"?  Viking12   Oct-01-09 09:40 AM   #35 
                          - I don't know, but obviously you did  Nederland   Oct-01-09 12:21 PM   #36 
                             - So you finally admit you rely on "blog science"?  Viking12   Oct-01-09 02:51 PM   #37 
                                - I think his point is that it would have been simplier  kristopher   Oct-01-09 06:44 PM   #38 
                                   - He made his case in post #19.  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 07:00 PM   #40 
                                   - No he didn't Josh.  kristopher   Oct-01-09 07:14 PM   #41 
                                      - This is the exchange:  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 07:44 PM   #42 
                                         - You need to lay off the pot, dude.  kristopher   Oct-01-09 09:11 PM   #44 
                                            - The paper refutes the assertion that there is significant overestimation (on 20 y/o data).  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 10:07 PM   #45 
                                            - I never said he didn't have a bias.  kristopher   Oct-01-09 11:27 PM   #47 
                                            - To pretend that we do?  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 11:58 PM   #48 
                                   - I must have missed the acknowledgement that he was wrong in this case...  Viking12   Oct-02-09 06:27 AM   #51 
                                      - How did he "try to conceal the source of his graph"?  kristopher   Oct-02-09 11:37 AM   #52 
                                      - He repeatedly denied that the graph was from a blog.  Viking12   Oct-02-09 12:43 PM   #53 
                                         - I disagree.  kristopher   Oct-02-09 01:11 PM   #54 
                                            - Are you on crack?  Viking12   Oct-02-09 01:41 PM   #55 
                                            - That's lame  kristopher   Oct-02-09 02:19 PM   #56 
                                            - A tenured professor of POLITICAL science  Viking12   Oct-02-09 03:09 PM   #58 
                                            - Viking12, I've been quite enjoying the Yamal drama.  joshcryer   Oct-02-09 10:39 PM   #64 
                                            - No doubt we'll see that crap here eventually.  Viking12   Oct-03-09 08:43 AM   #65 
                                            - Perhaps I can help explain  Nederland   Oct-02-09 02:53 PM   #57 
                                            - So any old graph on the web is credible as long as it supports your position?  Viking12   Oct-02-09 03:10 PM   #59 
                                            - What are you, 12?  Nederland   Oct-02-09 03:55 PM   #60 
                                      - Readers: do yourself a favor and skip posts #52-60.  joshcryer   Oct-02-09 07:44 PM   #61 
                                         - That is a BIZARRE post...  kristopher   Oct-02-09 09:32 PM   #62 
                                            - Is it?  joshcryer   Oct-02-09 10:32 PM   #63 
        - The 1990 IPCC report, and indeed, reports going back as far as the 60s...  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 08:21 PM   #43 
     - That's because AR4 does *not* include any data on arctic/antarctic melting.  joshcryer   Sep-30-09 03:38 PM   #20 
        - Exactly. Someone high above Boulder doesn't know what he's talking about.  Viking12   Sep-30-09 04:01 PM   #22 
        - Question  Nederland   Sep-30-09 04:11 PM   #24 
           - Read this:  joshcryer   Sep-30-09 04:19 PM   #26 
              - Good article  Nederland   Sep-30-09 05:01 PM   #27 
                 - The article is talking about how they derive their estimations, written by the same guy.  joshcryer   Sep-30-09 06:48 PM   #30 
                 - Your 15 year old student doesn't seem brillant to me  Nederland   Oct-01-09 12:04 AM   #32 
                    - The radiative forcing of CO2 is a constant that can be determined in a lab.  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 06:52 PM   #39 
                 - Are you aware that summer melt over Greenland is increasing at around 40,000 km^2 a year?  joshcryer   Oct-01-09 10:24 PM   #46 
  - The corporate-capitalist mindless-consumer growth-oriented system  Ghost Dog   Sep-30-09 01:16 PM   #9 
     - Or at the very least  GliderGuider   Sep-30-09 01:51 PM   #13 
        - With love and compassion, naturally.  Ghost Dog   Sep-30-09 02:57 PM   #16 

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