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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:08 AM
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31. It's a rather simple definition.
For me it is simply social equality, equal access to resources, equal access to things of nature. I think one reason the world is falling apart environmentally is that we don't allow for this equal, fair, sharing of planetary resources. This is directly the result of exploitation.

The planet is fully capable of coexisting with us, we don't have to destroy it for our species to thrive at the level of luxuries we've come to take for granted. We must simply stop wasting its resources in ways that prevent the planet from recycling our waste in ecological time frames.

For instance, industrial geoagriculture is a wasteful, unequal process. Only a few large congolmerates feed the world. Around a few million people. They synthesize nitrate fertalizers from natural gas deposits. They drain large aquifers. Those at the bottom of the scale only receive the grain. They don't touch the aquifers, some of the best water you will ever drink comes from the great midwest aquifer, some of that water is quite ancient. Natural gas has few uses, except for maybe heating. But even that is best done with thermally efficient housing.

Waste and pollution is the cornerstone of inequality, imo.
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     - Yeah, a tool that will be around way long after we are gone. nt  Javaman   Aug-24-09 03:49 PM   #7 
        - Evolution will decompose our plastic eventually.  joshcryer   Aug-26-09 09:06 PM   #11 
  - Our brains and overall genetics haven't changed much since then  GliderGuider   Aug-24-09 11:32 AM   #2 
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     - Some info on egalitarianism in H-G societies  GliderGuider   Aug-24-09 01:34 PM   #4 
     - I see... academics have a tendency to expand word meanings...  iiibbb   Aug-24-09 01:46 PM   #5 
     - You are 100% correct.  kristopher   Aug-26-09 06:45 PM   #10 
        - Hierarchies had to form somehow.  joshcryer   Aug-26-09 09:11 PM   #12 
           - .  kristopher   Aug-26-09 10:25 PM   #14 
           - The Aka only started practicing agriculture in the past 150 years.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 01:24 PM   #19 
           - BTW, I'd be interested in reading about modern "HG tribes" that practice egalitarianism.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 01:40 PM   #23 
              - "You will not like"???  kristopher   Aug-28-09 02:18 PM   #25 
              - So show me some tribes you know of.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 03:25 PM   #26 
                 - Zerzan-esque???  kristopher   Aug-28-09 05:54 PM   #27 
                    - I don't disagree with Marvin Harris here.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 08:18 PM   #28 
                       - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-28-09 08:31 PM   #29 
              - Egalitarianism = universalism?  tama   Aug-29-09 12:35 AM   #30 
                 - It's a rather simple definition.  joshcryer   Aug-29-09 02:08 AM   #31 
                    - In other words  tama   Aug-29-09 02:16 AM   #32 
                       - Humans just act with their own ingenuity.  joshcryer   Aug-29-09 02:26 AM   #33 
                          - By self-important  tama   Aug-29-09 02:41 AM   #34 
           - Your comments about shamans  GliderGuider   Aug-27-09 12:52 PM   #16 
              - Of course,  tama   Aug-28-09 04:03 AM   #18 
              - I've seen enough documentaries to understand the shamanistic relationship.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 01:29 PM   #20 
              - Also, I'm particularly interested in the quote by a reader of that book:  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 01:36 PM   #22 
     - Variety of Multitude  tama   Aug-25-09 01:07 PM   #8 
        - Yes, the above poster failed to recognize that information is power, not power.  joshcryer   Aug-26-09 09:14 PM   #13 
           - Someone who could not bring back food would not be "an excellent hunter"  GliderGuider   Aug-26-09 10:33 PM   #15 
              - We are talking pure skill here.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 01:34 PM   #21 
  - Causing other animals to become extinct is normal  Arcana   Aug-26-09 06:09 PM   #9 
     - What you see is what you get  tama   Aug-28-09 03:34 AM   #17 
        - This is an intra-inter species relationship.  joshcryer   Aug-28-09 01:47 PM   #24 
 

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