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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:07 AM
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31. No, it wasn't a "smokescreen".
The EPA wanted a 10,000 year standard and wouldn't change it until they were ordered to by a court in one of the lawsuits over Yucca Mountain. This Slate article has links to the NAS report and the court order: http://www.slate.com/id/2212792 /

You're wrong about nuclear being the only choice.
From the 2007 IPCC Fourth Assessment Report:
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report

In terms of electricity generation, the IPCC envisage that renewable energy can provide 30 to 35% of electricity by 2030 (up from 18% in 2005) at a carbon price of up to US$50/t, and that nuclear power can rise from 16% to 18%. They also warn that higher oil prices might lead to the exploitation of high-carbon alternatives such as oil sands, oil shales, heavy oils, and synthetic fuels from coal and gas, leading to increasing emissions, unless carbon capture and storage technologies are employed.<34>

That was based on economic models using cost estimates for nuclear that we now know were way too low,
it wasn't until the Keystone report came out in June 2007 that we started getting realistic cost estimates,
too late for the IPCC report. If they redid it with the new cost estimates, the percentage nuclear would be much smaller.

Nuclear energy isn't needed at all, and it's more expensive than the alternatives.
Here's what we do globally: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bananas/826
Here's what we do in the U.S.: http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/18/obama-replace-dir... /

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