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Fri Mar-27-09 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #30 |
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Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 03:05 PM by tama
A friend of mine made this the motto of his book of poems:
"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love." -1 John 4:17-18.
I like this quote too: "Love is a many splendoured thing". We shouldn't try to define or limit love or perfect love as this or that, whatever we say about love, it's also something else, something more.
Western intellectual understanding of Buddhism often borders with nihilism, wich is a distortion. The Buddhist criticism of attachment is not criticism of love or compassion, but of the act of separation and alianation by mechanisms of objectifying and subjectifying) - in "perfect love" there are no hard barriers of separation, but "what is done to least of us is done to me".
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hatrack |
Mar-26-09 12:23 PM |
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That doesn't sound so awesome. |
phantom power |
Mar-26-09 12:26 PM |
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Quick, Phantom Power - tell me some Clean Coal stories!!! |
hatrack |
Mar-26-09 12:28 PM |
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We aren't clapping very hard, are we... |
phantom power |
Mar-26-09 12:29 PM |
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What a privilege it is to be alive today. |
GliderGuider |
Mar-26-09 12:34 PM |
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stuntcat |
Mar-26-09 12:43 PM |
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Actually, I'm going to step out of character for a minute. |
phantom power |
Mar-26-09 12:36 PM |
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Why are you scared? |
GliderGuider |
Mar-26-09 01:20 PM |
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It's a long way, still, |
tama |
Mar-26-09 01:34 PM |
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In many ways |
tama |
Mar-26-09 01:44 PM |
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The path that I'm on combines the two approaches |
GliderGuider |
Mar-26-09 02:04 PM |
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Much of the same |
tama |
Mar-26-09 02:13 PM |
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It's important not to just know things, but to experience them. |
GliderGuider |
Mar-26-09 02:20 PM |
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To experience = to transform |
tama |
Mar-26-09 06:25 PM |
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I think the short answer is that I *am* attached to impermanent things. |
phantom power |
Mar-26-09 02:35 PM |
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Like Jeebus said |
tama |
Mar-26-09 02:44 PM |
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I suppose, then, that I am still in favor of value-based judgements. |
phantom power |
Mar-26-09 02:56 PM |
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No problemo |
tama |
Mar-26-09 03:15 PM |
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A nice summary |
OKIsItJustMe |
Mar-26-09 10:09 PM |
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It's possible to love without being attached. |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 07:46 AM |
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No, love is not possible without attachment |
OKIsItJustMe |
Mar-27-09 08:36 AM |
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The discussion doesn't have much to do with E/E at this point |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 09:29 AM |
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. |
XemaSab |
Jun-18-09 01:41 PM |
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Bible quoting |
tama |
Mar-27-09 03:00 PM |
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Congratulations. nt |
kristopher |
Mar-26-09 10:15 PM |
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Thanks, I needed that! |
dreamnightwind |
Mar-27-09 04:37 AM |
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You packed for New Zealand? |
XemaSab |
Mar-26-09 02:04 PM |
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I've heard their immigration policy is pretty strict. |
phantom power |
Mar-26-09 02:37 PM |
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My step-cousin's mom is a kiwi |
XemaSab |
Mar-26-09 02:56 PM |
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I didn't know about the "compost" feedback mechanism. |
gulfcoastliberal |
Mar-26-09 12:49 PM |
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Yet another positive feedback loop - heat = increased repro = more heat = even more repro . . . . |
hatrack |
Mar-26-09 12:52 PM |
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That is the key...and why I say that we are already well past the "tipping point"... |
truebrit71 |
Mar-26-09 01:43 PM |
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We have been warned and warning that |
HillbillyBob |
Mar-26-09 01:12 PM |
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A couple of astonishing videos from 2007 |
OKIsItJustMe |
Mar-26-09 10:22 PM |
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We're so far past the tipping point it's not even funny |
NickB79 |
Mar-27-09 11:12 AM |
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You're right. |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 11:23 AM |
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Is anybody modeling the impact of this? |
phantom power |
Mar-27-09 03:02 PM |
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Does anyone even really want to know? |
tama |
Mar-27-09 03:10 PM |
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Are you interested in spending time on realistic possibilities? |
phantom power |
Mar-27-09 03:38 PM |
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Been there, done that |
tama |
Mar-27-09 04:14 PM |
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I'm thinking more in terms of "what will the new climate be like?" |
phantom power |
Mar-27-09 04:43 PM |
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The problem is that it puts our attention on the model instead of the reality |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 04:54 PM |
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I propose that they are *both* useful questions. |
phantom power |
Mar-27-09 06:17 PM |
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What's wrong with living right where you are? |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 06:26 PM |
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I don't know. That's what I'd like to predict! |
phantom power |
Mar-27-09 06:36 PM |
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Mmmm. I see your point. |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 06:57 PM |
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Hmm. That isn't as funny as it seemed when I wrote it. |
GliderGuider |
Mar-27-09 09:20 PM |
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Actually, that was pretty funny. |
phantom power |
Mar-27-09 10:18 PM |
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I hear New Zealand is nice |
XemaSab |
Mar-27-09 09:47 PM |
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Well |
tama |
Mar-27-09 04:58 PM |
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We haven't seen panic yet |
pscot |
Mar-29-09 10:48 AM |
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