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Reply #17: Good post, but my thinking that ethanol is a scam goes well beyond the math. [View All]

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:16 PM
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17. Good post, but my thinking that ethanol is a scam goes well beyond the math.
It goes well beyond the oversimplified way you framed my concerns, To say ethanol is not worth developing because it can't replace all the gasoline tomorow is a false argumant.

It has to do with crop residue removal killing the soil, and shitty EROI (Energy Return on energy input/invested) for ethanol.

It has to do with the basic immorality of taking corn poor people could be eating and and shoving up our fat-assed SUV's, getting oh about 10 miles to 10,000 meals or so (I haven't done the math so this is a guess to make a point; Glider Guider has, though and could probably calculate just how many 1,000 calorie dishes of corn meal will take a Cadillac Escalade or even a Honda Civic one mile).

As to the use of ethanol production NOT imapcting the food supply, I am skeptical and will have to see some data on this from a neutral source (NOT a "study" comissioned by the Ethanol Lobbyists of Amerika, thank you) before I buy it.

I will say this, though: if you can show hard data that ethanol production does not impact the food supply, I would reconsider my position.
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