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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:57 AM
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17. Or we dont get fusion and cut down trees and scrape every bit of coal to survive?
Is that what you want?

Are you naive enough to honestly think that humans will just slowly vanish away while the birds sing in the beautiful tree. And the streams of fish stream along without a care?


The tree is going down the birds eggs is going to be taken the fish is going to be either blown out of the water or caught with nets. The tree and nest dries and is thrown into a steam generator while a desperate family eats eggs and fish for the first time in days.

By the time we lose a billion people biodiversity will be greatly reduced. Entire ecosystems will be lost. The ocean will be almost devoid of fish (Oh BTW Whales)

By the time we get to two billion earth will be a wasteland.

Stop thinking that way. Fusion is going to help save what is left. Whatever problems it gives we will have a HELL of alot longer to deal with them.
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  - Carbon trading? You mean "paying poor countries to let us burn more coal".  Pigwidgeon   Jun-10-08 12:51 PM   #1 
  - .. paying -->the leaders< of poor countries  excess_3   Jun-10-08 02:05 PM   #2 
     - When you're right, you're right  Pigwidgeon   Jun-10-08 03:46 PM   #4 
  - Translation: They couldn't make the goal, now they don't even have to try.  tom_paine   Jun-10-08 03:05 PM   #3 
  - Envrionmentalism is being thrown out the window.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 03:21 AM   #5 
     - It puts a knot in the pit of my stomach  GliderGuider   Jun-11-08 06:17 AM   #6 
     - Grinch is a vast understatement.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 06:37 AM   #7 
     - I know, it's a very unpopular sentiment.  GliderGuider   Jun-11-08 08:17 AM   #16 
        - Or we dont get fusion and cut down trees and scrape every bit of coal to survive?  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 08:57 AM   #17 
           - Yes, that's what will happen.  GliderGuider   Jun-11-08 09:38 AM   #18 
              - Well if I felt the same way you did I sure would not want to stick around.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 09:49 AM   #19 
              - Thats an odd response.  GliderGuider   Jun-11-08 10:04 AM   #21 
              - That simply isn't true!!  kristopher   Jun-11-08 10:10 AM   #22 
                 - Bingo!  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 10:50 AM   #25 
                 - I don't see the connection you're trying to draw.  GliderGuider   Jun-11-08 12:46 PM   #26 
                 - Questioning your population model:  bhikkhu   Jun-12-08 09:07 PM   #27 
                 - Yes, you've parsed it correctly.  kristopher   Jun-12-08 09:16 PM   #28 
                    - That the first two facts began with the industrial revolution  bhikkhu   Jun-12-08 09:39 PM   #29 
                       - A bit of elementary number-crunching seems to support your position  GliderGuider   Jun-12-08 11:08 PM   #30 
                       - I don't believe you are accounting for the proper variables.  kristopher   Jun-13-08 03:07 AM   #31 
                          - OK, let's look at just Western Europe over the last 2000 years  GliderGuider   Jun-13-08 05:59 AM   #32 
                             - That's difficult.  kristopher   Jun-13-08 05:35 PM   #34 
                       - Factor in the cost of birth control. nt  kristopher   Jun-13-08 05:36 PM   #35 
                 - I'm not sure how we got off onto population issues  GliderGuider   Jun-13-08 10:34 AM   #33 
                    - It is directly related.  kristopher   Jun-13-08 05:48 PM   #36 
     - "Crucified as a Grinch"  Pigwidgeon   Jun-11-08 06:40 AM   #8 
        - ROFLOL  GliderGuider   Jun-11-08 08:07 AM   #15 
     - Renewables can do it.  kristopher   Jun-11-08 06:42 AM   #9 
        - There is nothing crazy about Nanowires and EEstor so id go with those.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 06:52 AM   #10 
           - If they are ready and can be mass produced, I'm in.  kristopher   Jun-11-08 06:57 AM   #11 
              - No Thanks im not ready for the astounding amount of cost and pollution involved in current methods.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 07:03 AM   #12 
                 - Good, improvements should come along, but we don't wait.  kristopher   Jun-11-08 07:40 AM   #13 
                    - Laws and budget urging the navy to step up the pace on the EMC2 program plus.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 07:50 AM   #14 
                       - That's a start...  kristopher   Jun-11-08 09:56 AM   #20 
                          - To respond to your points.  Zachstar   Jun-11-08 10:23 AM   #23 
                             - Not impossible at all, everything is ripe for this sort of policy program  kristopher   Jun-11-08 10:47 AM   #24 

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