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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:34 PM
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1. The second point is also very telling:
2. The scope of all the problems put together. Nearly everyone doing this work is completely out of their fields on some level (certainly not excluding yours truly). Climate scientists are usually not petroleum geologists, and vice versa. Neither are usually economists (which is often to the good, but has its downside), and thus expert on how global economic crisis is likely to impact what we can expect to do. Nor are economists, climate scientists or geologists usually ethicists, or experts in issues of justice, or political scientists.

It would not be inaccurate to say that no one fully understands what I like to call the Crisis Ourobouros that is, the disaster that is always swallowing its own tail. And because no one full understands it, and most people are experts only in one area, it is very hard to come to a clear analysis, say, of how a growing financial collapse and massive rises in energy prices will constrain a future build out. The feedback loops dont just exist within climate change and peak oil, but in the whole of our present situation.

Although James Hansen and Richard Heinberg respectively have done compelling analyses of how climate change and peak oil are likely to impact one another, they have barely begun to look at the giant iceberg of what faces us.
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