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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Don't misread my position
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 09:13 PM by GliderGuider
I'm still totally convinced that all the bad shit I've written about is going to happen. If humanity ends up consisting of more than a billion people by the end of the century, I'll be totally amazed. Our Taker culture has fucked up but good, and now it's time to pay the piper. I'm convinced there is going to be a lot of turmoil and misery in the next few decades. The Chicago School is going to hang ten on the biggest wave of disaster our culture has ever seen.

But of course that's not the whole story of humanity. What will those billion survivors be like? What will they believe, how will they behave, where will they find their joys amid the sorrow? And rest assured, they will find their joys, no matter what we might expect from our vantage point here in the past.

But never mind the survivors. How should we, the participants, act as the world unfolds around us? Will we choose the path of despair, denial, resignation, grim determination, armed insurrection or withdrawal from our fellow man? Or might it be possible for a person to become fully aware of what's going on, but at the same time work to improve the lot of humanity lot by promoting strength, courage and awareness in others and joy in themselves?

I've tried both despair and joy, and I'm convinced of two things. The first is that joy beats despair any day, any time, any place, to any degree. The second is that by giving in to despair we are not recognizing Truth to any deeper level. Rather, we are letting our ego's attachment to pain and fear lead us into a trap of illusion -- the illusion that only the shit is real. That perception is not Truth, it's just the ego speaking.

Reality is what it is, and I have no doubt that enough hard rain is gonna fall to make an ego's skeleton dance with delight on the graves of the undeserving dead. But that will happen Then, and this is still Now. There is a lot to be gained by fully living the infinite succession of Nows that pave the road to Then. If we live them well, we might even change (no, we will surely change) what happens Then. What that will be, we cannot tell. We can't know Then, we can only know Now. Live the very best you can right now, and Destiny will take care of itself.
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  -Wisdom rather than mere intelligence GliderGuider  Apr-15-08 06:06 AM   #0 
  - Without reading it....  Dead_Parrot   Apr-15-08 06:11 AM   #1 
  - Oh, ye of little faith...  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 06:24 AM   #3 
  - I took a quick look and it looks interesting. I'll check it out later. Thanks.  SharonAnn   Apr-15-08 06:20 AM   #2 
  - You're off on the right foot  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 08:16 AM   #4 
  - The urge to expand may ultimately be resistible  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 11:34 AM   #7 
     - May I suggest a slightly different tack?  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 04:25 PM   #9 
  - I'd settle for intelligence.  phantom power   Apr-15-08 09:15 AM   #5 
  - I think we already have more than enough intelligence, thank you  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 09:58 PM   #16 
  - I wonder if "wisdom" == "inductive" and "intelligence" == "deductive"  phantom power   Apr-15-08 09:20 AM   #6 
  - Wisdom is experiential, while intelligence is cognitive  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 09:21 PM   #12 
  - Well inductive and deductive reasoning are qualtiatively different  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 09:41 PM   #14 
     - So who was wiser, Miss Marple or Sherlock Holmes?  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 09:56 PM   #15 
        - You could make the case  kristopher   Apr-15-08 10:06 PM   #18 
        - Miss Marple but not because she used inductive reasoning per se  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 10:40 AM   #32 
  - Interesting, but I don't think so, at least not quite  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 09:27 PM   #13 
  - what an inspiring read!  Shoelace   Apr-15-08 02:15 PM   #8 
  - I am not sure what to say about this, Paul.  tom_paine   Apr-15-08 07:41 PM   #10 
  - Don't misread my position  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 08:13 PM   #11 
  - "...when the energy runs out..."  kristopher   Apr-15-08 10:02 PM   #17 
     - Wow, so much foolishness in such a short post.  tom_paine   Apr-15-08 10:53 PM   #21 
        - What a kidder you are...  kristopher   Apr-15-08 11:06 PM   #22 
           - LOL. You know nothing about me, but that didn't stop your armchair psychology.  tom_paine   Apr-15-08 11:42 PM   #24 
              - Trying to cover up being a fool, eh?  kristopher   Apr-15-08 11:52 PM   #25 
                 - Oh please, moron. Gave up on the armchair psychoanalysis, did we?  tom_paine   Apr-16-08 12:12 AM   #27 
                    - Dude, the record is there for anyone to see.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 12:17 AM   #28 
                       - LOL nice try, doofus. I KNEW you'd return to the armchair psychoanalysis.  tom_paine   Apr-16-08 12:44 AM   #29 
  - "Wisdom" is over-rated, and is generally self referentially defined.  NNadir   Apr-15-08 10:35 PM   #19 
  - Poor examples; but then look at the source.  kristopher   Apr-15-08 10:45 PM   #20 
  - I make no secret of my contempt for faith, particularly the fundamentalist type.  NNadir   Apr-15-08 11:24 PM   #23 
     - Then why use them as examples of wisdom?  kristopher   Apr-15-08 11:54 PM   #26 
  - I've never known a particularly wise religious person  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 05:35 AM   #30 
     - I've known several wise religious and/or spiritual persons  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 10:57 AM   #33 
     - I really don't think it is that complicated  kristopher   Apr-16-08 11:48 AM   #34 
     - What about the role of compassion?  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 12:49 PM   #36 
        - Now you're asking for a dissertation  kristopher   Apr-16-08 01:20 PM   #37 
           - I don't believe compassion is a sense of fairness.  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 01:57 PM   #39 
           - I tend towards root concepts  kristopher   Apr-16-08 02:19 PM   #41 
              - Is the root of the tree the fruit of the tree?  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 02:29 PM   #42 
              - I don't think so. And I don't agree with your characterization (fundamentalism)  kristopher   Apr-16-08 02:43 PM   #44 
                 - Not everything in life is an intellectual game.  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 03:16 PM   #45 
                    - There is a time and place for everything.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 04:05 PM   #47 
                       - True.  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 04:33 PM   #50 
                          - Considering the context  kristopher   Apr-16-08 05:09 PM   #51 
                             - spheres of "caring"  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 05:18 PM   #52 
                             - Both.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 06:39 PM   #56 
                             - "Spheres of Caring" -vs- "The Golden Rule"  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 05:29 PM   #53 
                                - And that brings us full circle  kristopher   Apr-16-08 06:34 PM   #55 
              - Question, Is there such a thing as an "innate sense of fairness?"  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 03:45 PM   #46 
                 - Please take a look at neuroethics.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 04:19 PM   #48 
                 - Second reply  kristopher   Apr-16-08 04:25 PM   #49 
                    - It predates the printing press  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 05:46 PM   #54 
           - Compassion is much more than "a sense of fairness" and it's not just pity  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 02:00 PM   #40 
              - Here's a good relative of compassion: "compersion"  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 02:34 PM   #43 
     - Maybe this comes down to semantics  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 12:49 PM   #35 
     - The finger is not the moon  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 01:43 PM   #38 
     - Why am I in no way surprised with these Pop cult examples?  NNadir   Apr-16-08 08:12 PM   #58 
     - Bohr and Einstein had this argument about objective reality and people assume Einstein lost.  NNadir   Apr-16-08 08:08 PM   #57 
        - Well, good luck  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 08:58 PM   #59 
  - It's very pretty.  hunter   Apr-16-08 10:39 AM   #31 
 

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