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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:16 AM
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4. You're off on the right foot
Although I still take issue with your basic assumption.
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The irresistible human urge is of course for us to get busy and do even more of what seemed to get us out of trouble in the past: innovate and expand. ...

I believe the urge to expand is resistible, and that in most of the "developed" countries, we are resisting it. (Perhaps it has something to do with "wisdom?")
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  -Wisdom rather than mere intelligence GliderGuider  Apr-15-08 06:06 AM   #0 
  - Without reading it....  Dead_Parrot   Apr-15-08 06:11 AM   #1 
  - Oh, ye of little faith...  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 06:24 AM   #3 
  - I took a quick look and it looks interesting. I'll check it out later. Thanks.  SharonAnn   Apr-15-08 06:20 AM   #2 
  - You're off on the right foot  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 08:16 AM   #4 
  - The urge to expand may ultimately be resistible  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 11:34 AM   #7 
     - May I suggest a slightly different tack?  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 04:25 PM   #9 
  - I'd settle for intelligence.  phantom power   Apr-15-08 09:15 AM   #5 
  - I think we already have more than enough intelligence, thank you  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 09:58 PM   #16 
  - I wonder if "wisdom" == "inductive" and "intelligence" == "deductive"  phantom power   Apr-15-08 09:20 AM   #6 
  - Wisdom is experiential, while intelligence is cognitive  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 09:21 PM   #12 
  - Well inductive and deductive reasoning are qualtiatively different  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 09:41 PM   #14 
     - So who was wiser, Miss Marple or Sherlock Holmes?  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 09:56 PM   #15 
        - You could make the case  kristopher   Apr-15-08 10:06 PM   #18 
        - Miss Marple but not because she used inductive reasoning per se  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 10:40 AM   #32 
  - Interesting, but I don't think so, at least not quite  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-15-08 09:27 PM   #13 
  - what an inspiring read!  Shoelace   Apr-15-08 02:15 PM   #8 
  - I am not sure what to say about this, Paul.  tom_paine   Apr-15-08 07:41 PM   #10 
  - Don't misread my position  GliderGuider   Apr-15-08 08:13 PM   #11 
  - "...when the energy runs out..."  kristopher   Apr-15-08 10:02 PM   #17 
     - Wow, so much foolishness in such a short post.  tom_paine   Apr-15-08 10:53 PM   #21 
        - What a kidder you are...  kristopher   Apr-15-08 11:06 PM   #22 
           - LOL. You know nothing about me, but that didn't stop your armchair psychology.  tom_paine   Apr-15-08 11:42 PM   #24 
              - Trying to cover up being a fool, eh?  kristopher   Apr-15-08 11:52 PM   #25 
                 - Oh please, moron. Gave up on the armchair psychoanalysis, did we?  tom_paine   Apr-16-08 12:12 AM   #27 
                    - Dude, the record is there for anyone to see.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 12:17 AM   #28 
                       - LOL nice try, doofus. I KNEW you'd return to the armchair psychoanalysis.  tom_paine   Apr-16-08 12:44 AM   #29 
  - "Wisdom" is over-rated, and is generally self referentially defined.  NNadir   Apr-15-08 10:35 PM   #19 
  - Poor examples; but then look at the source.  kristopher   Apr-15-08 10:45 PM   #20 
  - I make no secret of my contempt for faith, particularly the fundamentalist type.  NNadir   Apr-15-08 11:24 PM   #23 
     - Then why use them as examples of wisdom?  kristopher   Apr-15-08 11:54 PM   #26 
  - I've never known a particularly wise religious person  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 05:35 AM   #30 
     - I've known several wise religious and/or spiritual persons  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 10:57 AM   #33 
     - I really don't think it is that complicated  kristopher   Apr-16-08 11:48 AM   #34 
     - What about the role of compassion?  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 12:49 PM   #36 
        - Now you're asking for a dissertation  kristopher   Apr-16-08 01:20 PM   #37 
           - I don't believe compassion is a sense of fairness.  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 01:57 PM   #39 
           - I tend towards root concepts  kristopher   Apr-16-08 02:19 PM   #41 
              - Is the root of the tree the fruit of the tree?  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 02:29 PM   #42 
              - I don't think so. And I don't agree with your characterization (fundamentalism)  kristopher   Apr-16-08 02:43 PM   #44 
                 - Not everything in life is an intellectual game.  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 03:16 PM   #45 
                    - There is a time and place for everything.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 04:05 PM   #47 
                       - True.  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 04:33 PM   #50 
                          - Considering the context  kristopher   Apr-16-08 05:09 PM   #51 
                             - spheres of "caring"  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 05:18 PM   #52 
                             - Both.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 06:39 PM   #56 
                             - "Spheres of Caring" -vs- "The Golden Rule"  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 05:29 PM   #53 
                                - And that brings us full circle  kristopher   Apr-16-08 06:34 PM   #55 
              - Question, Is there such a thing as an "innate sense of fairness?"  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 03:45 PM   #46 
                 - Please take a look at neuroethics.  kristopher   Apr-16-08 04:19 PM   #48 
                 - Second reply  kristopher   Apr-16-08 04:25 PM   #49 
                    - It predates the printing press  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 05:46 PM   #54 
           - Compassion is much more than "a sense of fairness" and it's not just pity  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 02:00 PM   #40 
              - Here's a good relative of compassion: "compersion"  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 02:34 PM   #43 
     - Maybe this comes down to semantics  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 12:49 PM   #35 
     - The finger is not the moon  OKIsItJustMe   Apr-16-08 01:43 PM   #38 
     - Why am I in no way surprised with these Pop cult examples?  NNadir   Apr-16-08 08:12 PM   #58 
     - Bohr and Einstein had this argument about objective reality and people assume Einstein lost.  NNadir   Apr-16-08 08:08 PM   #57 
        - Well, good luck  GliderGuider   Apr-16-08 08:58 PM   #59 
  - It's very pretty.  hunter   Apr-16-08 10:39 AM   #31 
 

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