Dead_Parrot
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Wed Jul-18-07 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 20. What about kids living within 2 metres of sea-level? |
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There some in Bangladesh, apparently...  Or don't they count if they're not white? |
| -Weigh in... with the nuclear power straw poll! |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 09:36 AM |
#0 |
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The only thing I have against nuclear power |
rocknation |
Jul-17-07 09:39 AM |
#1 |
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Sorry, but on an international level nuclear power has killed less people |
HonorTheConstitution |
Jul-17-07 09:46 AM |
#3 |
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It's safer than everything else. Everything. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-17-07 09:51 AM |
#4 |
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unsafe: uranium mining, energy production, nuclear waste storage |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 01:20 AM |
#52 |
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Nonsense. All of those things are done safely every day. NT |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 02:46 AM |
#60 |
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Please tell us all about the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act |
jpak |
Jul-23-07 03:44 PM |
#113 |
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Wasn't as safe in the PAST. |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 04:37 PM |
#116 |
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Is uranium mining, milling, transport, conversion and enrichment "safe" today??? |
jpak |
Jul-23-07 05:23 PM |
#120 |
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You realize Uranium is weakly radioactive right? |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 06:58 PM |
#123 |
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unless they are in your lungs |
app_farmer_rb |
Jul-23-07 07:33 PM |
#124 |
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And there are processes to mitigate that hazard. n/t |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 08:39 PM |
#130 |
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Please tell us about the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act and the thousands |
jpak |
Jul-24-07 11:23 AM |
#134 |
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We need a new National Mandate for |
smiley_glad_hands |
Jul-17-07 09:44 AM |
#2 |
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One unwritten assumption of my poll is: technologies that are mature today. |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 09:53 AM |
#5 |
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Oh think of the potential |
texastoast |
Jul-17-07 09:55 AM |
#6 |
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I am much more concerned with *actual* devastation. |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 10:12 AM |
#7 |
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I know, what a huge mystery!!! |
Bread and Circus |
Jul-17-07 10:52 AM |
#10 |
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Do you know how many people coal-based power has killed today? 26 just today in the US. |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 02:49 AM |
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We are lucky that the First Energy plants never poured radioactive water into Lake Erie |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-17-07 01:30 PM |
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The Palo Verde nuclear plant, near here, uses treated sewage for coolant. |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 01:53 PM |
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The condenser water is an isolated system from the radioactive water in the reactor |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-17-07 04:29 PM |
#19 |
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Too late to worry about drug testing those welders |
texastoast |
Jul-17-07 02:55 PM |
#16 |
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I think it's a knee-jerk reaction to the word "nuclear." |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 02:56 AM |
#63 |
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Mandatory drug testing? |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-17-07 10:22 AM |
#8 |
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Just think |
texastoast |
Jul-17-07 02:48 PM |
#15 |
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yes, yes, all those damned dirty hippies, high as shit. back in the day. |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 03:19 PM |
#17 |
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What about kids living within 2 metres of sea-level? |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-18-07 06:16 AM |
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Conservation will do them good |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-18-07 11:27 AM |
#23 |
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Does it matter? |
NoMoreMyths |
Jul-17-07 10:33 AM |
#9 |
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A vote with a caveat |
GliderGuider |
Jul-17-07 11:13 AM |
#11 |
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speaking of that, I had secretly hoped that you would have something to say about... |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 03:27 PM |
#18 |
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a kick for straw |
phantom power |
Jul-17-07 12:54 PM |
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Its too late for peak oil |
4dsc |
Jul-18-07 06:34 AM |
#21 |
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Yes, PO is a much more urgent problem than GW |
GliderGuider |
Jul-18-07 08:42 AM |
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It does raise an interesting question: what does an economy look like... |
phantom power |
Jul-18-07 01:43 PM |
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It's an intersting thought experiment, but has low real-world value |
GliderGuider |
Jul-18-07 01:49 PM |
#25 |
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I'm not completely sure. |
phantom power |
Jul-18-07 02:01 PM |
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That's a fundamental difference in our outlook |
GliderGuider |
Jul-18-07 02:28 PM |
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I wouldn't call myself a gradualist.... |
phantom power |
Jul-18-07 02:52 PM |
#28 |
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Electric Cars. The technology is there. |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 12:50 PM |
#106 |
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Sure, I'll have a helping of nuclear dust with my veggies. |
chiggerbit |
Jul-19-07 12:12 PM |
#29 |
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European study concludes more than 66 million dead from nukes since 1945 |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 05:15 PM |
#30 |
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Or, maybe I sould say... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 05:30 PM |
#31 |
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Well, if you don't know what you're talking about, make stuff up. |
NNadir |
Jul-21-07 08:26 PM |
#32 |
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Ooh -- it sounds ever so official and scientific! |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-21-07 08:48 PM |
#34 |
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That is the single most stupid thing that I've ever read. |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 03:16 AM |
#68 |
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Wikipedia says about Nevada as a testing ground..... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 08:45 PM |
#33 |
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That's the only source of nuclear fallout? |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-21-07 09:17 PM |
#36 |
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Simple Question to you: Where do you logically put waste? |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 04:40 PM |
#117 |
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Pigwidgeon said... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 09:04 PM |
#35 |
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It decays to background in about 300-1000 years |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-21-07 09:25 PM |
#37 |
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Pigwidgeon says... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 10:33 PM |
#38 |
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Chiggerbit is interested in recycling |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-21-07 11:06 PM |
#41 |
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And by "recycle"... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 10:52 PM |
#40 |
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That's where most DU comes from. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-21-07 11:30 PM |
#43 |
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Nonsense. The two have nothing to do with each other. |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 03:02 AM |
#65 |
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Horseshit. The National Academy of Science suggested maybe a million years. |
struggle4progress |
Jul-22-07 12:44 AM |
#47 |
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The NAS is mistaken. |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 03:05 AM |
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How convincing! You repeat your canard and add "The NAS is mistaken" |
struggle4progress |
Jul-22-07 06:37 AM |
#80 |
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The most highly radioactive isotopes decay the quickest. |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 02:37 AM |
#93 |
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And so different scenarios give the maximum exposure at different time scales |
struggle4progress |
Jul-23-07 08:25 PM |
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If you bothered to actually look at the data, you'd see that I'm right. |
TheWraith |
Jul-23-07 12:00 PM |
#101 |
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You'll wait a long time |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-23-07 12:38 PM |
#105 |
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Most Anti's don't have a clue about Nuclear Reactors. |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 02:02 PM |
#107 |
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The Ocean changed my mind |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-23-07 03:22 PM |
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Talk about a nicely mixed metaphor. NT |
TheWraith |
Jul-23-07 02:52 PM |
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It's not a matter of my information being bad, but of your failure to understand what the NAS |
struggle4progress |
Jul-23-07 08:23 PM |
#126 |
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The horse is all yours |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 03:18 AM |
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No, I quoted "Physics Today" reporting on a court case |
struggle4progress |
Jul-22-07 06:10 AM |
#78 |
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Again, Pigwidgeon says... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 10:48 PM |
#39 |
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Please clarify that |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-21-07 11:25 PM |
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Well, my math's not so good...... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 11:43 PM |
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here's a use for that nuclear waste |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 01:02 AM |
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I'm anti-war. If you are pro-war, you're on your own. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 01:58 AM |
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well it's already happening in case you didn't know |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 02:30 AM |
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DU is not spent fuel from reactors |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-22-07 06:46 PM |
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I know that, read what I said. n/t |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 10:43 PM |
#90 |
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Ooops, sorry, you are right |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-23-07 06:31 AM |
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Reports of blue flash studied.. |
chiggerbit |
Jul-21-07 11:57 PM |
#45 |
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Every hour, enough solar radiation hits the earth to power the entire planet for a year. |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 12:14 AM |
#46 |
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Waste disposal is the problem. |
Like It Is |
Jul-22-07 01:02 AM |
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And uranium mining too. n/t |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 01:03 AM |
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Nuclear is too dangerous -- period. n/t |
silverojo |
Jul-22-07 01:09 AM |
#51 |
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It's all about the OPTIONS. |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 01:33 AM |
#53 |
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This poll has been TROLLED |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 02:24 AM |
#55 |
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Thanks for the good links |
hankthecrank |
Jul-22-07 02:29 AM |
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It's a conspiracy to promote abortion |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 02:45 AM |
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I like the board you gave me links too |
hankthecrank |
Jul-22-07 02:49 AM |
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Knock yourself out, Hank |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 02:58 AM |
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Sorry used up all my electrons can't write them |
hankthecrank |
Jul-22-07 03:34 AM |
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Sweet fancy Moses, what a weird and crazy site. |
TheWraith |
Jul-22-07 03:09 AM |
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They only come out at night |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 03:24 AM |
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Right,, sure, uh huh |
chiggerbit |
Jul-22-07 05:43 AM |
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So where DID the "66 million" come from? |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-22-07 06:01 AM |
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Jul-22-07 06:35 AM |
#79 |
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Ahhh... |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-22-07 07:45 AM |
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Jul-22-07 08:44 AM |
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Jul-22-07 09:56 AM |
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Cool |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-22-07 04:17 PM |
#86 |
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I expected this a lot sooner. |
phantom power |
Jul-22-07 09:47 AM |
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Even with polling-Hessians, they haven't quite cracked 50%. |
phantom power |
Jul-22-07 06:00 PM |
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Na, |
garybeck |
Jul-22-07 10:56 PM |
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Jul-23-07 01:01 AM |
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Ick! |
Nihil |
Jul-23-07 04:03 AM |
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Aww, but they're cute |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-23-07 05:02 AM |
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wrong reply |
chiggerbit |
Jul-23-07 12:01 PM |
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Interesting read on effects.. |
chiggerbit |
Jul-22-07 02:28 AM |
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Solar All the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
farmboxer |
Jul-22-07 03:28 AM |
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I voted "Convinced against..." |
chknltl |
Jul-22-07 03:40 AM |
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Show me your math for geothermal, solar, tidal, etc. |
phantom power |
Jul-22-07 11:38 AM |
#85 |
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I answered your question fairly. You answer mine now: |
chknltl |
Jul-22-07 09:56 PM |
#89 |
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Try here: |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-23-07 02:49 AM |
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Gee, who here has the college PhD do unravel that math??? |
chknltl |
Jul-23-07 03:51 AM |
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Jul-23-07 04:49 AM |
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We have to address our energy profligacy. I am distressed when |
Esra Star |
Jul-22-07 04:48 AM |
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Uranium supply: almost forever |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-22-07 05:15 AM |
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The US would have to process 7000+ cubic kilometers of seawater each year |
jpak |
Jul-23-07 03:29 PM |
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The beauty is that you can make new fuel. Plutonium. |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 04:42 PM |
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Breeder reactors do not work |
jpak |
Jul-23-07 05:16 PM |
#119 |
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Compared to millions of windmills, it's small stuff |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-23-07 06:08 PM |
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There are 3.5 grams/L of salt in seawater and only 3.3 micro-grams/L of uranium |
jpak |
Jul-24-07 11:31 AM |
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200 km^3 a day. We probably do that now. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-24-07 01:04 PM |
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200 cubic kilometers per day??? You've got to be kidding |
jpak |
Jul-24-07 01:23 PM |
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No pie, but blue skies for nuclear energy AND de-sal |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-24-07 03:52 PM |
#140 |
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This is the most popular post I ever did. |
phantom power |
Jul-23-07 10:12 AM |
#100 |
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Nihil said... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-23-07 12:07 PM |
#103 |
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I think that's a fair point. |
phantom power |
Jul-23-07 12:17 PM |
#104 |
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I have no problem there |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-23-07 02:52 PM |
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I thought what you found was very juicy. This poll provoked quite a reaction. |
phantom power |
Jul-23-07 04:23 PM |
#115 |
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That's a good point |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-23-07 06:39 PM |
#122 |
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No... |
losthills |
Jul-23-07 07:59 PM |
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Err, no. |
Dead_Parrot |
Jul-23-07 08:30 PM |
#128 |
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Now that is full of shit. |
VTMechEngr |
Jul-23-07 08:37 PM |
#129 |
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... but chiggerbit said ... |
Nihil |
Jul-24-07 04:05 AM |
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We're talking about two things here... |
chiggerbit |
Jul-24-07 11:38 AM |
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i think you meant... |
lakeguy |
Jul-28-07 12:05 PM |
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The key to this is going to be financing |
depakid |
Jul-23-07 03:35 PM |
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Actually, |
chiggerbit |
Jul-23-07 03:58 PM |
#114 |
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Here, I'll let these guys speak for me why I am AGAINST |
chknltl |
Jul-23-07 09:35 PM |
#131 |
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Your link is a hit piece |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-23-07 11:37 PM |
#132 |
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Kill the messenger....where have I heard that before |
chknltl |
Jul-24-07 07:49 PM |
#141 |
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What was that? |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-25-07 12:31 PM |
#143 |
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Where to start...lets use your own words. |
chknltl |
Jul-25-07 11:46 PM |
#144 |
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"My feeling is this thread is flamebait and little more." |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-26-07 09:13 PM |
#145 |
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. |
chknltl |
Jul-27-07 12:47 AM |
#146 |
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I thought it was funny, too |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-28-07 01:01 PM |
#148 |
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Attention fish in barrel: meet stick o dynamite |
chknltl |
Jul-29-07 12:28 AM |
#151 |
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Your last post said it all |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-30-07 06:23 AM |
#152 |
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I like your links good info |
hankthecrank |
Jul-24-07 02:16 PM |
#139 |
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Thanks for the support |
chknltl |
Jul-24-07 08:15 PM |
#142 |
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I'm shocked that a board such as this has a poll with these results. |
cui bono |
Jul-28-07 07:10 PM |
#149 |
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That's the whole point. Why is it *bad*? |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-30-07 06:28 AM |
#153 |
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Well scanning through this thread and reading what I could digest |
cui bono |
Jul-28-07 08:17 PM |
#150 |
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Some responses. No flames, no rancor. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jul-30-07 09:29 AM |
#154 |
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