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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 06:22 PM
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53. There is no "having it both ways"
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 06:22 PM by Taitertots
Adding them is meaningless because it conflates the suffering associated with millions or people losing their livelihoods with the mild inconvenience of a 1% price change. Do you believe that the suffering from 1% inflation is equal to the suffering caused by forcing millions of people out of work.


The only people that inflation "makes poorer" are people who are holding a lot of cash i.e. the wealthy. While the poor have copious amounts of debt and almost no cash holdings, which means inflation benefits them. Only the wealthy are hoarding enough for inflation to hurt them.
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  -An objection to theories of hyperinflation Tigermoose  Apr-19-11 11:08 AM   #0 
  - It's not a "gut" negative reaction  Dr. Righteous   Apr-19-11 04:42 PM   #1 
  - The bust was caused by insufficient reserves in banks and corporations  Tigermoose   Apr-20-11 10:44 AM   #10 
  - You say:  abelenkpe   Apr-20-11 07:28 PM   #14 
  - The gold standard was abandoned because it was a pathetic failure  Taitertots   Apr-21-11 11:38 PM   #16 
     - The gold standard did not cause the Great Depression.  roamer65   Apr-22-11 02:10 PM   #18 
        - It was not the sole cause, but it exacerbated the Great Depression  Taitertots   Apr-23-11 09:10 AM   #21 
           - There were four types of currency in the USA leading up to the GD.  roamer65   Apr-23-11 06:03 PM   #24 
              - Hoover's excessively tight monetary policy was certainly an exacerbating factor  Taitertots   Apr-24-11 07:21 AM   #28 
                 - Yes. you can have literally two separate currencies and monetary policies.  roamer65   Apr-24-11 08:51 PM   #37 
  - What massive crater in the money supply?  econoclast   Apr-20-11 08:11 AM   #2 
  - Don't forget health care and education, plenty of inflation going on there. nt  bemildred   Apr-20-11 08:58 AM   #3 
  - That inflation is a result of government providing access to healthcare and education  Tigermoose   Apr-20-11 10:28 AM   #8 
  - The Shadow Banking System imploded  Tigermoose   Apr-20-11 10:20 AM   #7 
  - The crater is in credit not money supply.  abelenkpe   Apr-20-11 07:31 PM   #15 
  - The housing boom/collapse was created by a glut of cheap money  Po_d Mainiac   Apr-20-11 09:17 AM   #4 
  - Yes, Cheap money was created by too much leverage  Tigermoose   Apr-20-11 10:32 AM   #9 
  - A glut of cheap money also caused the 1929 stock market crash.  roamer65   Apr-22-11 02:11 PM   #19 
  - Monetary Policy and the Housing Bubble by Ben Bernanke  Taitertots   Apr-23-11 10:46 AM   #22 
  - graph  econoclast   Apr-20-11 09:24 AM   #5 
  - So what happened in 1995?  bemildred   Apr-20-11 09:35 AM   #6 
  - Recall the Weimar Republic lesson  SoulSearcher   Apr-20-11 05:38 PM   #11 
  - America is several orders of magnitude away from the Wiemar Republic  Taitertots   Apr-21-11 11:46 PM   #17 
  - StLouis Fed Graph showing Non-Borrowed Reserves  SoulSearcher   Apr-20-11 06:29 PM   #12 
  - There was no destruction of the money supply.  westerebus   Apr-20-11 07:28 PM   #13 
  - Gold is a fiat currency, because ANY currency is by definition a fiat currency  eridani   Apr-23-11 02:13 AM   #20 
     - gold is a commodity  orangeapple   Apr-23-11 10:50 AM   #23 
     - If you use it as currency, it's fiat currency  eridani   Apr-24-11 05:04 AM   #26 
     - there is a distinction you're missing  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 10:44 AM   #29 
        - The ability to print more money makes fiat currencies ideal  Taitertots   Apr-24-11 12:58 PM   #30 
        - what is ideal about letting  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 02:29 PM   #32 
           - "Misery Index" is meaningless and does nothing to measure the satisfaction of the populace  Taitertots   Apr-24-11 02:49 PM   #33 
              - that's your petard you find yourself hoisted on.  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 03:27 PM   #34 
                 - The "Misery index" is meaningless. Unemployment and inflation are important  Taitertots   Apr-24-11 04:41 PM   #35 
                    - sorry, you can't have it both ways  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 06:49 PM   #36 
                       - There is no "having it both ways"  Taitertots   Apr-30-11 06:22 PM   #53 
        - Gold has been used as a medium of exchange because people are superstitious idiots  eridani   Apr-24-11 09:22 PM   #38 
           - ...but it is a beautiful superstition.  roamer65   Apr-25-11 07:29 PM   #40 
           - Superstition has NOTHING to do with it  Art_from_Ark   Apr-25-11 10:01 PM   #41 
     - Gold has no intrinsic value except that it is a rare material  golfguru   Apr-25-11 10:28 PM   #42 
        - Gold has all sorts of uses  Art_from_Ark   Apr-25-11 11:58 PM   #43 
           - "Jewelry: The Primary Use of Gold"  golfguru   Apr-26-11 12:24 AM   #44 
              - Did you bother reading the rest of the article?  Art_from_Ark   Apr-26-11 12:49 AM   #45 
                 - 40 years ago gold crowns were very popular  golfguru   Apr-26-11 01:03 AM   #46 
                    - The last time I visited my "friendly dentist"  Art_from_Ark   Apr-26-11 01:22 AM   #47 
                    - Your points are well taken  golfguru   Apr-26-11 01:00 PM   #50 
                       - Just watch the Fed Funds rate.  orangeapple   Apr-26-11 02:29 PM   #51 
                       - I don't know if you could call this parabolic  Art_from_Ark   Apr-27-11 01:33 AM   #52 
                    - give us a few more years of trillion dollar deficits  orangeapple   Apr-26-11 09:12 AM   #48 
                       - Agreed! n/t  golfguru   Apr-26-11 12:58 PM   #49 
     - Gold cannot be created "out of thin air", therefore it is not fiat money.  roamer65   Apr-23-11 06:10 PM   #25 
        - Certifcates of gold ownership are created out of thin air all the time n/t  eridani   Apr-24-11 05:05 AM   #27 
           - are they redeemable in specie  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 02:22 PM   #31 
              - The gold that people imagine exists is ceated out of thin air  eridani   Apr-24-11 09:25 PM   #39 
 

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