Reply #9: Some of us have been derided as doom and gloom. In my personal life

[HillbillyBob]

has seen the downfall coming from having a decent job to having messed up health etc.
I have seen since child hood that our gluttonous over use of everything resource wise could not be sustainable in a closed cycle environment.
When I was a kid in the 60s the idea of mining asteroids seemed like it could happen.
Instead of investing in space to build up things we have greedy and selfish grabbers using up even more resources from earth instead of reaching out to the asteroids and moon to build up space stations that could help feed us, provide raw materials, instead everyone uses up those energy and metal ores for hummmers and cheap jewelry and other short lived useless junk.
so sorry you cannot reach for the stars when you are hiding underground and using up everything.
Our Earths resources should have been used as investment rather than end product.
We have tried to set up to get through, we don't have a bomb shelter and tons of food.
Things are too tight financially for us. What we have done is move to the country where we can grow our own food, there is water on site, that is if the climate does not go totally out the window.
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We are developing an ecofarm to use little or no fossil fuels, it is slow going. We are still in the making every bit go further stages. We cannot afford solar panels etc yet, but are adding inulation of various kinds and ways. Growing heirloom crops that need less water and no fertilizers except manure etc. It would take too long to list all we have done, most of it is cheap or free to do like gaskets in the light switches, outlets and fixtures is reused foam packaging material that is not really recyclable or bio degradeble, soaps made from plants etc.
Using CFLs and going to LEDs, lower powered appliances, I am not physically able to wash clothes by hand, and the stream on the property runs through a cow pasture upstream.
Planting giant sequoia, while they do take a lot of water they also cool the immediate area around them by transpiration, are fire and insect resistant.
Ultimate goals are indpendent of outside fuels especially fossil fuels.
Would that our near sighted government would legalize hemp for it grows with no fertilizer and would need very little water to produce fabric similar go cotton which needs monoculture and intense fossil inputs.