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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:47 PM
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19. OK. I agree with most of that.
The "human component" is THE part that "counts" AND/BUT/UNFORTUNATELY it is the hardest to quantify. For every example we give of a specific town, or profession, or family - they'll have another one that looks great. That's the problem with trying to talk about the economy by saying "well, I don't have a job". There are millions of people working here, and some hundreds of thousands will be doing awfull even in a great economy and hundreds of thousands will be doing great in a downturn.

Republicans used to make the same sort of cracks about Clinton's nine million new jobs ("I know, I have four of them"). Any time there is an improvement in any of those numbers, the opposition has to find a way to blunt it.



Of course I "sound like a cheerleader" if you are comparing me to those who are saying that things continue to get worse. They want so much to take down Bush, and they know that a terrible economy is the easiest way to do it (it having worked wekk against a Bush before) that they DESIRE the numbers look bad. But not just "bad", not even just "recession" bad. He's got to look like Hoover. If I just look at how things are and say "they AIN'T great, but it doesn't compare to Hoover" I'm a republican spinmeister?

I want to deal with reality and how we will adress it in the campaign. Some "wishful Wanda's" want to keep fighting the old battles.
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  -"Bush tax cuts will not do much to lift the economy"- NYTimes rusty charly  Dec-01-03 07:05 AM   #0 
  - I have a problem understanding this article  Frodo   Dec-01-03 12:40 PM   #1 
  - Good question.  Code_Name_D   Dec-01-03 02:11 PM   #2 
  - And all the other numbers?  Frodo   Dec-01-03 02:18 PM   #3 
     - Now that you mention it.  Code_Name_D   Dec-01-03 03:45 PM   #6 
        - That was my point - many of then are NOT.  Frodo   Dec-01-03 04:08 PM   #9 
           - Many of them are.  Code_Name_D   Dec-01-03 05:46 PM   #10 
              - OK. Give me a few examples?  Frodo   Dec-01-03 08:18 PM   #13 
  - Rise in GDP would have been higher  XanthaS   Dec-01-03 03:24 PM   #4 
  - That would be hard to believe.  Frodo   Dec-01-03 04:05 PM   #8 
  - There's also a third option  cosmicaug   Dec-01-03 03:32 PM   #5 
     - Not in the case of this question.  Frodo   Dec-01-03 04:02 PM   #7 
        - Government spending  cosmicaug   Dec-01-03 07:05 PM   #11 
           - The mistake you're making is...  Frodo   Dec-01-03 08:09 PM   #12 
              - so what did we accomplish?  Brokenlamp   Dec-06-03 05:46 AM   #14 
                 - Not quite.  Frodo   Dec-06-03 07:05 AM   #15 
                    - Once Again Frodo, I See You Are Peddling The All Is Well Argument  mhr   Dec-06-03 05:36 PM   #16 
                       - Yeahm that's it, I just post real fast.  Frodo   Dec-06-03 10:12 PM   #17 
                          - What mhr is saying is....  kalian   Dec-07-03 10:39 AM   #18 
                             - OK. I agree with most of that.  Frodo   Dec-07-03 01:47 PM   #19 
  - Bush's tax cuts have not done nothing.  MATTMAN   Dec-07-03 02:27 PM   #20 
  - No Tax Cuts, Just Tax-Shifting to States  LastChance2004   Dec-08-03 12:03 PM   #21 
 

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