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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:03 PM
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31. So you don't like Dean
because he was 'priviliged'? He's less of a person because he didn't have to worry about finances? Does that mean that John Edwards' kids will grow up to be less worthy of respect because their daddy provided for their needs? For that matter, anyone with money isn't as worthy as people who have financial difficulties?

Your dislike of Dean is clouding your sense of reality.
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  -What do you think people will care more about? What Dean did at age 21... killbotfactory  Nov-26-03 03:10 PM   #0 
  - Its not like he snorted coke at age 30  neuvocat   Nov-26-03 03:11 PM   #1 
  - Or got caught drunk driving.  killbotfactory   Nov-26-03 03:13 PM   #2 
     - Or killed someone with their car.  neuvocat   Nov-26-03 04:30 PM   #19 
        - That would've put him in a "Pickle."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-28-03 02:53 PM   #65 
           - How Punny.  neuvocat   Nov-28-03 04:22 PM   #69 
  - Some couldn't for someone who never owned a baseball team  HereSince1628   Nov-26-03 03:16 PM   #3 
  - Dean did nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be proud of.  Feanorcurufinwe   Nov-26-03 03:18 PM   #4 
  - I'd love to see AWOL try and make it an issue n/t  rucky   Nov-26-03 03:19 PM   #5 
  - They'll use everything against the dem nominee  killbotfactory   Nov-26-03 03:24 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-26-03 03:22 PM   #6 
  - He tried to get out  sandnsea   Nov-26-03 03:30 PM   #8 
  - ssshhhh!!!  Feanorcurufinwe   Nov-26-03 03:32 PM   #9 
  - As long as we're sticking to the facts  Demobrat   Nov-26-03 03:35 PM   #12 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-26-03 03:38 PM   #14 
     - It was true  sandnsea   Nov-26-03 04:34 PM   #22 
     - Did he give it up after that?  DemBones DemBones   Nov-29-03 05:36 AM   #77 
  - Ummm...John Edwards was 16 in 1969...  helleborient   Nov-26-03 03:34 PM   #11 
  - It's not a sweeping generalization  sandnsea   Nov-26-03 04:31 PM   #20 
  - Dean made it through medical school during that period of time.  w4rma   Nov-27-03 11:34 AM   #28 
  - Entered med school - 1978  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 12:15 AM   #45 
     - I think when Edwards accused Dean of treating the southern poor white  AP   Nov-30-03 11:18 PM   #124 
  - Dean worked his butt off going to medical school...  Andromeda   Nov-27-03 04:08 PM   #38 
  - The main reason people get rejection letters  DemBones DemBones   Nov-29-03 06:33 AM   #79 
  - I used to caddy at a country club for doctors. My favorites were the sons  AP   Nov-30-03 11:02 AM   #98 
  - So tutoring poor black kids in the city is nothing?  KaraokeKarlton   Nov-28-03 04:47 PM   #72 
     - And quit  sandnsea   Nov-29-03 02:33 PM   #88 
        - to become a doctor and save lives  KaraokeKarlton   Nov-30-03 08:19 AM   #95 
        - In a debate recently he said teaching was "too hard" so he went skiing.  AP   Nov-30-03 10:58 AM   #97 
           - I've seen all the debates and I never heard him say any such thing  KaraokeKarlton   Nov-30-03 09:41 PM   #121 
              - Show me the transcripts of thet last two debates.  AP   Nov-30-03 11:08 PM   #122 
                 - Here it is:  AP   Nov-30-03 11:14 PM   #123 
  - Have Gephardt supporters being attacking him for not serving?  JohnKleeb   Nov-27-03 11:39 AM   #29 
  - He was in school in the 60's.  killbotfactory   Nov-26-03 03:39 PM   #15 
  - you skipped the Wall Street broker stint  NewYorkerfromMass   Nov-26-03 04:05 PM   #18 
     - The death of his brother, Charlie, made Howard give up being a stockbroker  slinkerwink   Nov-27-03 09:32 AM   #24 
        - 4 years later?  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 12:30 AM   #46 
  - Good on him! I would have, also.  Scott Lee   Nov-27-03 08:30 PM   #40 
     - He's lying about it  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 12:31 AM   #47 
        - What's he lying about? Can you prove it, or is this just more slime?  Scott Lee   Nov-28-03 01:50 PM   #59 
        - Dean is a success...  Andromeda   Nov-30-03 08:16 AM   #94 
           - "jealous," "irrational hatred," "apoplectic," "whining," "snivel,"...  AP   Nov-30-03 10:56 AM   #96 
              - So the democratic frontrunner is "not that much of a success", hm?  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 03:57 PM   #99 
                 - He's up there with Back Street Boys and The Hilton Sisters.  AP   Nov-30-03 08:23 PM   #116 
                    - And how many consecutive terms as governor have the others?  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:17 PM   #125 
  - A lot of people who went to Vietnam never had the chance to reinvent....  AP   Nov-26-03 03:33 PM   #10 
  - He had that option and used it  killbotfactory   Nov-26-03 03:36 PM   #13 
     - He has reinvented himself several times in his life.  AP   Nov-26-03 03:49 PM   #16 
     - That's nonsense.  killbotfactory   Nov-26-03 03:55 PM   #17 
     - That's not what I'm saying.  AP   Nov-27-03 09:37 AM   #25 
     - I'm pretty average  Pavlovs DiOgie   Nov-27-03 09:57 AM   #26 
        - Did you reinvent yourself out of desperation, or just becuase you could?  AP   Nov-27-03 11:52 AM   #30 
           - So you don't like Dean  Pavlovs DiOgie   Nov-27-03 01:03 PM   #31 
           - This isn't about so much as it is about Dean and the perception  AP   Nov-27-03 04:10 PM   #39 
              - The vast majority..  Pavlovs DiOgie   Nov-28-03 01:25 AM   #48 
                 - My point is that Dean has lived a life that isn't available to many  AP   Nov-28-03 01:47 AM   #49 
                    - Your argument was flawed  Pavlovs DiOgie   Nov-28-03 01:58 AM   #51 
                       - Have you met Kerry?  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 02:58 AM   #52 
                       - And people who took out loans to get an MD just can't up and decide to  AP   Nov-28-03 06:40 AM   #54 
                       - Why not?  Scott Lee   Nov-29-03 01:59 PM   #82 
                          - Yeah. It's in the fine print rules on your student loans. Don't pay. Go...  AP   Nov-29-03 08:53 PM   #93 
                       - Have you met Dean and his wife?  Scott Lee   Nov-28-03 02:04 PM   #64 
                          - They're both nice?  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 04:28 PM   #71 
                             - I'm asking you. You seem have 1st hand knowledge of the Deans  Scott Lee   Nov-29-03 01:58 PM   #81 
                                - Please be rational  sandnsea   Nov-29-03 02:42 PM   #90 
                                   - Rational question: Why were you impugning the Deans as a couple?  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 04:04 PM   #100 
                                      - Those are your thoughts  sandnsea   Nov-30-03 04:14 PM   #104 
                                      - Don't you have the courage to stand behind your insinuations?  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 06:43 PM   #109 
                       - John Edwards took a risk by not going into his family's business, "hard...  AP   Nov-28-03 06:27 AM   #53 
                          - Your opinion differs greatly from mine  Pavlovs DiOgie   Nov-28-03 01:05 PM   #57 
                             - Ultimately, perception will be way more important than the truth.  AP   Nov-28-03 04:25 PM   #70 
                                - Sure, if that's the way he wants to play it  Pavlovs DiOgie   Nov-28-03 11:17 PM   #76 
                                   - Of course the Republicans will target a candidate's weakness  AP   Nov-29-03 09:17 AM   #80 
           - So you're telling us you never made an "effort vs. benefits" decision?  Scott Lee   Nov-28-03 02:03 PM   #63 
              - And you've never had to forego a chance at something becuase the  AP   Nov-28-03 09:03 PM   #74 
                 - Did Bill Clinton pursue, or receive, a degree in Presidential Politics?  Scott Lee   Nov-29-03 02:01 PM   #83 
                    - There is no degree for elected politicians. However, Clinton had a...  AP   Nov-29-03 05:09 PM   #91 
                       - No commitment from Dean? How long was he governor, again?  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 06:46 PM   #110 
                          - Maybe I've missed something. What IS Dean's record on  AP   Nov-30-03 08:28 PM   #117 
                             - So Dean's efforts for health care in Vt were just selfish I suppose?  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:19 PM   #126 
                                - Dean on Health Care reminds me of Gore on environment  AP   Dec-02-03 01:14 AM   #133 
     - I don't think he had a job while he was in med school. n/t  DemBones DemBones   Nov-29-03 05:52 AM   #78 
     - You say that like it's a bad thing.  Scott Lee   Nov-27-03 08:33 PM   #41 
        - You know what the call people who can reinvent themself on a whim, or ....  AP   Nov-28-03 12:03 AM   #44 
           - You know what they call people who mindread people's intentions?  Scott Lee   Nov-28-03 01:52 PM   #60 
              - Again, this isn't about you or about me or even about reality. It's about  AP   Nov-28-03 09:05 PM   #75 
                 - This is about nothing but your baseless hatred of Howard Dean  Scott Lee   Nov-29-03 02:03 PM   #84 
                    - "baseless" and "hatred" -- two words which reveal either that you have  AP   Nov-29-03 05:10 PM   #92 
                       - "Neener Neener" won't help you here.  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 04:06 PM   #101 
                          - Would that it were "neener neener" that I wrote.  AP   Nov-30-03 05:22 PM   #106 
                             - But that's what you meant. Can't you stand behind your insinuations?  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 06:47 PM   #111 
                                - What I meant was a lot better argued than that.  AP   Nov-30-03 08:31 PM   #118 
                                   - So are you backing up on insinuating the Deans arent nice folks?  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:20 PM   #127 
                                      - I don't know that I was going forward with that "insinuation"  AP   Dec-02-03 01:16 AM   #134 
     - Then he should tell the truth  sandnsea   Nov-26-03 04:33 PM   #21 
        - Where has he lied? Proof, please.  Scott Lee   Nov-27-03 08:38 PM   #43 
           - He lied  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 01:51 AM   #50 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-03 11:32 AM   #56 
              - Your definition of "tried to get out of the draft" might differ from Dean'  Scott Lee   Nov-28-03 01:56 PM   #61 
              - He lied this year  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 03:26 PM   #68 
                 - You are, in fact, lying about him.  Scott Lee   Nov-29-03 02:07 PM   #85 
                    - Facts are facts  sandnsea   Nov-29-03 02:23 PM   #87 
                       - FACT: Howard Dean never dodged a draft. EVER.  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 04:09 PM   #102 
              - As with many of your posts when you claim a "lie" has occured  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-28-03 03:10 PM   #66 
                 - He didn't just report  sandnsea   Nov-28-03 03:24 PM   #67 
                    - Lie.  Scott Lee   Nov-29-03 02:10 PM   #86 
                       - Not what he said  sandnsea   Nov-29-03 02:37 PM   #89 
                          - Where's the lie? There isnt one!  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 04:11 PM   #103 
                             - No, not St. Howard  sandnsea   Nov-30-03 04:20 PM   #105 
                                - And would you even get an x-ray of your back as part of  AP   Nov-30-03 05:24 PM   #107 
                                - Well, I asked my hubber  sandnsea   Nov-30-03 05:38 PM   #108 
                                - If Dean had not brought those records, he would have breached law  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 07:02 PM   #114 
                                - Care to cite the criminal code which says that "against the law"  AP   Nov-30-03 08:32 PM   #119 
                                   - Here is the military requirement for bringing such records to  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:23 PM   #128 
                                      - It's not a violation of the law unless there's some kind  AP   Dec-02-03 01:19 AM   #135 
                                - Why would he be eager to go into a war your candidate protested?  killbotfactory   Dec-02-03 04:46 AM   #138 
                                - Had Dean not brought those medical records to the board.....  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 07:00 PM   #113 
                                - You just lied several times about Howard Dean again...  Scott Lee   Nov-30-03 06:59 PM   #112 
                                   - When was the last time anyone was convicted for failing  AP   Nov-30-03 08:35 PM   #120 
                                      - when was the last time someone was executed for treason?  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:24 PM   #129 
                                      - You think it's treason to not bring your medical records to  AP   Dec-02-03 01:22 AM   #136 
                                      - Somebody's on ignore  sandnsea   Dec-01-03 11:25 PM   #130 
                                         - did you say something, cupcake?  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:29 PM   #132 
  - None of those things will matter  Frenchie4Clark   Nov-27-03 06:36 AM   #23 
  - Not Aspen, not Biden Lugar, not flip-flops. But electability and  robbedvoter   Nov-27-03 10:17 AM   #27 
  - I agree with that  Sully   Nov-27-03 01:12 PM   #32 
     - So what will John Kerry do  RogueTrooper   Nov-27-03 01:22 PM   #33 
     - If it's all about donations...  Sully   Nov-27-03 01:26 PM   #34 
        - Kerry will not sell in Iowa.  Zynx   Nov-27-03 01:28 PM   #36 
           - We'll see in January.  Sully   Nov-27-03 03:13 PM   #37 
     - He's losing in his home state. Kerry will not win a single state to Dean.  Zynx   Nov-27-03 01:27 PM   #35 
        - You sure got that one right.  Demobrat   Nov-28-03 11:01 AM   #55 
  - Those who whine about a lack of Dean "substance" threads...  Scott Lee   Nov-27-03 08:35 PM   #42 
  - No patriotism here!  dogman   Nov-28-03 01:44 PM   #58 
  - The DeanHaterz got their script directly from the rightwingers  Scott Lee   Nov-28-03 01:58 PM   #62 
  - And where does everyone else get their scripts from?  MrPeepers   Nov-30-03 08:16 PM   #115 
     - Some of us don 't use scripts. We call it critical thought.  Scott Lee   Dec-01-03 11:26 PM   #131 
  - No, he was just a rich manipulator and coward (n/t)  DemDogs   Nov-28-03 05:02 PM   #73 
  - Maybe he didn't want to die in an immoral war?  killbotfactory   Dec-02-03 04:44 AM   #137 
  - It's not that *I* care...  Jack_Dawson   Dec-02-03 10:17 AM   #139 

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