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Wed Nov-26-03 03:19 PM
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| 5. I'd love to see AWOL try and make it an issue n/t |
| -What do you think people will care more about? What Dean did at age 21... |
killbotfactory |
Nov-26-03 03:10 PM |
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Its not like he snorted coke at age 30 |
neuvocat |
Nov-26-03 03:11 PM |
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Or got caught drunk driving. |
killbotfactory |
Nov-26-03 03:13 PM |
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Or killed someone with their car. |
neuvocat |
Nov-26-03 04:30 PM |
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That would've put him in a "Pickle." |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-28-03 02:53 PM |
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How Punny. |
neuvocat |
Nov-28-03 04:22 PM |
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Some couldn't for someone who never owned a baseball team |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-26-03 03:16 PM |
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Dean did nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be proud of. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Nov-26-03 03:18 PM |
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I'd love to see AWOL try and make it an issue n/t |
rucky |
Nov-26-03 03:19 PM |
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They'll use everything against the dem nominee |
killbotfactory |
Nov-26-03 03:24 PM |
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Nov-26-03 03:22 PM |
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He tried to get out |
sandnsea |
Nov-26-03 03:30 PM |
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ssshhhh!!! |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Nov-26-03 03:32 PM |
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As long as we're sticking to the facts |
Demobrat |
Nov-26-03 03:35 PM |
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Nov-26-03 03:38 PM |
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It was true |
sandnsea |
Nov-26-03 04:34 PM |
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Did he give it up after that? |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-29-03 05:36 AM |
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Ummm...John Edwards was 16 in 1969... |
helleborient |
Nov-26-03 03:34 PM |
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It's not a sweeping generalization |
sandnsea |
Nov-26-03 04:31 PM |
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Dean made it through medical school during that period of time. |
w4rma |
Nov-27-03 11:34 AM |
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Entered med school - 1978 |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 12:15 AM |
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I think when Edwards accused Dean of treating the southern poor white |
AP |
Nov-30-03 11:18 PM |
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Dean worked his butt off going to medical school... |
Andromeda |
Nov-27-03 04:08 PM |
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The main reason people get rejection letters |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-29-03 06:33 AM |
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I used to caddy at a country club for doctors. My favorites were the sons |
AP |
Nov-30-03 11:02 AM |
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So tutoring poor black kids in the city is nothing? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Nov-28-03 04:47 PM |
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And quit |
sandnsea |
Nov-29-03 02:33 PM |
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to become a doctor and save lives |
KaraokeKarlton |
Nov-30-03 08:19 AM |
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In a debate recently he said teaching was "too hard" so he went skiing. |
AP |
Nov-30-03 10:58 AM |
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I've seen all the debates and I never heard him say any such thing |
KaraokeKarlton |
Nov-30-03 09:41 PM |
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Show me the transcripts of thet last two debates. |
AP |
Nov-30-03 11:08 PM |
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Here it is: |
AP |
Nov-30-03 11:14 PM |
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Have Gephardt supporters being attacking him for not serving? |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-03 11:39 AM |
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He was in school in the 60's. |
killbotfactory |
Nov-26-03 03:39 PM |
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you skipped the Wall Street broker stint |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Nov-26-03 04:05 PM |
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The death of his brother, Charlie, made Howard give up being a stockbroker |
slinkerwink |
Nov-27-03 09:32 AM |
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4 years later? |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 12:30 AM |
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Good on him! I would have, also. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-27-03 08:30 PM |
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He's lying about it |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 12:31 AM |
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What's he lying about? Can you prove it, or is this just more slime? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-28-03 01:50 PM |
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Dean is a success... |
Andromeda |
Nov-30-03 08:16 AM |
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"jealous," "irrational hatred," "apoplectic," "whining," "snivel,"... |
AP |
Nov-30-03 10:56 AM |
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So the democratic frontrunner is "not that much of a success", hm? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 03:57 PM |
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He's up there with Back Street Boys and The Hilton Sisters. |
AP |
Nov-30-03 08:23 PM |
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And how many consecutive terms as governor have the others? |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:17 PM |
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A lot of people who went to Vietnam never had the chance to reinvent.... |
AP |
Nov-26-03 03:33 PM |
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He had that option and used it |
killbotfactory |
Nov-26-03 03:36 PM |
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He has reinvented himself several times in his life. |
AP |
Nov-26-03 03:49 PM |
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That's nonsense. |
killbotfactory |
Nov-26-03 03:55 PM |
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That's not what I'm saying. |
AP |
Nov-27-03 09:37 AM |
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I'm pretty average |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Nov-27-03 09:57 AM |
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Did you reinvent yourself out of desperation, or just becuase you could? |
AP |
Nov-27-03 11:52 AM |
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So you don't like Dean |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Nov-27-03 01:03 PM |
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This isn't about so much as it is about Dean and the perception |
AP |
Nov-27-03 04:10 PM |
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The vast majority.. |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Nov-28-03 01:25 AM |
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My point is that Dean has lived a life that isn't available to many |
AP |
Nov-28-03 01:47 AM |
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Your argument was flawed |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Nov-28-03 01:58 AM |
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Have you met Kerry? |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 02:58 AM |
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And people who took out loans to get an MD just can't up and decide to |
AP |
Nov-28-03 06:40 AM |
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Why not? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-29-03 01:59 PM |
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Yeah. It's in the fine print rules on your student loans. Don't pay. Go... |
AP |
Nov-29-03 08:53 PM |
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Have you met Dean and his wife? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-28-03 02:04 PM |
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They're both nice? |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 04:28 PM |
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I'm asking you. You seem have 1st hand knowledge of the Deans |
Scott Lee |
Nov-29-03 01:58 PM |
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Please be rational |
sandnsea |
Nov-29-03 02:42 PM |
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Rational question: Why were you impugning the Deans as a couple? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 04:04 PM |
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Those are your thoughts |
sandnsea |
Nov-30-03 04:14 PM |
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Don't you have the courage to stand behind your insinuations? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 06:43 PM |
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John Edwards took a risk by not going into his family's business, "hard... |
AP |
Nov-28-03 06:27 AM |
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Your opinion differs greatly from mine |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Nov-28-03 01:05 PM |
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Ultimately, perception will be way more important than the truth. |
AP |
Nov-28-03 04:25 PM |
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Sure, if that's the way he wants to play it |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Nov-28-03 11:17 PM |
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Of course the Republicans will target a candidate's weakness |
AP |
Nov-29-03 09:17 AM |
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So you're telling us you never made an "effort vs. benefits" decision? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-28-03 02:03 PM |
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And you've never had to forego a chance at something becuase the |
AP |
Nov-28-03 09:03 PM |
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Did Bill Clinton pursue, or receive, a degree in Presidential Politics? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-29-03 02:01 PM |
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There is no degree for elected politicians. However, Clinton had a... |
AP |
Nov-29-03 05:09 PM |
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No commitment from Dean? How long was he governor, again? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 06:46 PM |
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Maybe I've missed something. What IS Dean's record on |
AP |
Nov-30-03 08:28 PM |
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So Dean's efforts for health care in Vt were just selfish I suppose? |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:19 PM |
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Dean on Health Care reminds me of Gore on environment |
AP |
Dec-02-03 01:14 AM |
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I don't think he had a job while he was in med school. n/t |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-29-03 05:52 AM |
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You say that like it's a bad thing. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-27-03 08:33 PM |
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You know what the call people who can reinvent themself on a whim, or .... |
AP |
Nov-28-03 12:03 AM |
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You know what they call people who mindread people's intentions? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-28-03 01:52 PM |
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Again, this isn't about you or about me or even about reality. It's about |
AP |
Nov-28-03 09:05 PM |
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This is about nothing but your baseless hatred of Howard Dean |
Scott Lee |
Nov-29-03 02:03 PM |
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"baseless" and "hatred" -- two words which reveal either that you have |
AP |
Nov-29-03 05:10 PM |
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"Neener Neener" won't help you here. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 04:06 PM |
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Would that it were "neener neener" that I wrote. |
AP |
Nov-30-03 05:22 PM |
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But that's what you meant. Can't you stand behind your insinuations? |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 06:47 PM |
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What I meant was a lot better argued than that. |
AP |
Nov-30-03 08:31 PM |
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So are you backing up on insinuating the Deans arent nice folks? |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:20 PM |
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I don't know that I was going forward with that "insinuation" |
AP |
Dec-02-03 01:16 AM |
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Then he should tell the truth |
sandnsea |
Nov-26-03 04:33 PM |
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Where has he lied? Proof, please. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-27-03 08:38 PM |
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He lied |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 01:51 AM |
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Nov-28-03 11:32 AM |
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Your definition of "tried to get out of the draft" might differ from Dean' |
Scott Lee |
Nov-28-03 01:56 PM |
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He lied this year |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 03:26 PM |
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You are, in fact, lying about him. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-29-03 02:07 PM |
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Facts are facts |
sandnsea |
Nov-29-03 02:23 PM |
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FACT: Howard Dean never dodged a draft. EVER. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 04:09 PM |
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As with many of your posts when you claim a "lie" has occured |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-28-03 03:10 PM |
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He didn't just report |
sandnsea |
Nov-28-03 03:24 PM |
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Lie. |
Scott Lee |
Nov-29-03 02:10 PM |
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Not what he said |
sandnsea |
Nov-29-03 02:37 PM |
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Where's the lie? There isnt one! |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 04:11 PM |
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No, not St. Howard |
sandnsea |
Nov-30-03 04:20 PM |
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And would you even get an x-ray of your back as part of |
AP |
Nov-30-03 05:24 PM |
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Well, I asked my hubber |
sandnsea |
Nov-30-03 05:38 PM |
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If Dean had not brought those records, he would have breached law |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 07:02 PM |
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Care to cite the criminal code which says that "against the law" |
AP |
Nov-30-03 08:32 PM |
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Here is the military requirement for bringing such records to |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:23 PM |
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It's not a violation of the law unless there's some kind |
AP |
Dec-02-03 01:19 AM |
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Why would he be eager to go into a war your candidate protested? |
killbotfactory |
Dec-02-03 04:46 AM |
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Had Dean not brought those medical records to the board..... |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 07:00 PM |
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You just lied several times about Howard Dean again... |
Scott Lee |
Nov-30-03 06:59 PM |
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When was the last time anyone was convicted for failing |
AP |
Nov-30-03 08:35 PM |
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when was the last time someone was executed for treason? |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:24 PM |
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You think it's treason to not bring your medical records to |
AP |
Dec-02-03 01:22 AM |
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Somebody's on ignore |
sandnsea |
Dec-01-03 11:25 PM |
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did you say something, cupcake? |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:29 PM |
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None of those things will matter |
Frenchie4Clark |
Nov-27-03 06:36 AM |
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Not Aspen, not Biden Lugar, not flip-flops. But electability and |
robbedvoter |
Nov-27-03 10:17 AM |
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I agree with that |
Sully |
Nov-27-03 01:12 PM |
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So what will John Kerry do |
RogueTrooper |
Nov-27-03 01:22 PM |
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If it's all about donations... |
Sully |
Nov-27-03 01:26 PM |
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Kerry will not sell in Iowa. |
Zynx |
Nov-27-03 01:28 PM |
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We'll see in January. |
Sully |
Nov-27-03 03:13 PM |
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He's losing in his home state. Kerry will not win a single state to Dean. |
Zynx |
Nov-27-03 01:27 PM |
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You sure got that one right. |
Demobrat |
Nov-28-03 11:01 AM |
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Those who whine about a lack of Dean "substance" threads... |
Scott Lee |
Nov-27-03 08:35 PM |
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No patriotism here! |
dogman |
Nov-28-03 01:44 PM |
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The DeanHaterz got their script directly from the rightwingers |
Scott Lee |
Nov-28-03 01:58 PM |
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And where does everyone else get their scripts from? |
MrPeepers |
Nov-30-03 08:16 PM |
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Some of us don 't use scripts. We call it critical thought. |
Scott Lee |
Dec-01-03 11:26 PM |
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No, he was just a rich manipulator and coward (n/t) |
DemDogs |
Nov-28-03 05:02 PM |
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Maybe he didn't want to die in an immoral war? |
killbotfactory |
Dec-02-03 04:44 AM |
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It's not that *I* care... |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-02-03 10:17 AM |
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