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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. I think I've been showing recently, using the rock-solid surveys from NORC
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 08:36 AM by Mairead
that the 49% of sit-at-homes are specifically liberal/left and are available to a Dem candidate whose supporters can make these disenchanted, deeply unhappy people believe that it's not all a waste of effort.

Dennis and Al are the only such candidates. Despite all the rhetoric by other candidates, Dennis and Al are the only ones who are not business-as-usual. They are the only ones who stand for at least some real change.

Are we willing to do the work to bring some large fraction of that alienated 128M to the polling place?

If we're willing to do the work, it'll happen.
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  -Kucinich stands a very good chance of getting the nomination ErasureAcer  Oct-17-03 01:36 AM   #0 
  - Let them stay EA  JohnKleeb   Oct-17-03 01:39 AM   #1 
  - I'm not saying Sharpton and Braun should drop out...I just think it is...  ErasureAcer   Oct-17-03 01:44 AM   #2 
  - I know, its ok Erasure  JohnKleeb   Oct-17-03 01:47 AM   #3 
  - Whoever gets the nomination  DrBlix   Oct-17-03 02:18 AM   #5 
  - I've been saying similar things for a good week  diamondsoul   Oct-17-03 02:17 AM   #4 
     - Campaigns  TKP   Oct-17-03 08:03 AM   #8 
  - Sorry...  Dookus   Oct-17-03 02:31 AM   #6 
  - 'how anybody pollining under 3% can get the nom.'  plurality   Oct-17-03 07:53 AM   #7 
  - At what point was Clinton under 3%  Frodo   Oct-17-03 08:47 AM   #10 
     - around this time in '91  plurality   Oct-17-03 12:11 PM   #18 
        - Makes you wonder who put Flowers up to it, dunnit?  Mairead   Oct-17-03 12:13 PM   #19 
        - Funny you should post the message  surfermaw   Oct-17-03 08:05 PM   #39 
        - Bill Clinton was at 11% in August '91  Frodo   Oct-17-03 01:07 PM   #20 
        - Whoops! Just found it  Frodo   Oct-17-03 01:11 PM   #21 
           - Don't forget that the primary season is a lot more front-loaded this time  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-17-03 02:14 PM   #23 
              - And this helps Kucinich..... how exactly?  Frodo   Oct-17-03 02:39 PM   #27 
  - I think I've been showing recently, using the rock-solid surveys from NORC  Mairead   Oct-17-03 08:31 AM   #9 
  - Nader's electoral constituency  dfgrbac   Oct-18-03 12:32 PM   #65 
  - Why does Kucinich automatically get those votes?  Frodo   Oct-17-03 08:51 AM   #11 
  - CArol and Al agree with Dennis but they'll probably stay in  genius   Oct-17-03 02:18 PM   #24 
     - So?  Frodo   Oct-17-03 02:40 PM   #28 
  - I'm not ready to go as far as pronouncing he'll get the nomination, but  Le Taz Hot   Oct-17-03 08:54 AM   #12 
  - That's been my experience, too  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-17-03 09:48 AM   #14 
  - Like I've been saying all along...  no name no slogan   Oct-17-03 02:23 PM   #25 
  - It is far from over exact,ly  JohnKleeb   Oct-17-03 02:33 PM   #26 
  - Let the cream rise and then fall in line  surfermaw   Oct-17-03 08:08 PM   #40 
  - To quote Cher  OKNancy   Oct-17-03 09:38 AM   #13 
  - Braun and Sharpton is not going to drop out any time soon  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-17-03 09:49 AM   #15 
  - Maybe, but not on your theory -  Josh   Oct-17-03 10:02 AM   #16 
  - I'm strongly hoping neither Al nor CMB drop out at all  Mairead   Oct-17-03 10:55 AM   #17 
  - I agree that Kucinich will win.  genius   Oct-17-03 02:12 PM   #22 
  - I'm a recent convert...  ih8thegop   Oct-17-03 02:55 PM   #29 
  - Welcome aboard  JohnKleeb   Oct-17-03 02:59 PM   #30 
  - Yes, welcome!  no name no slogan   Oct-17-03 05:15 PM   #34 
  - Only someone who believes that Mr. Kucinich is qualified to be President  NNadir   Oct-17-03 04:52 PM   #31 
  - Lighten up  indigo32   Oct-17-03 04:55 PM   #32 
  - Thanks indigo32  no name no slogan   Oct-17-03 05:14 PM   #33 
  - Indigo youre great thank you  JohnKleeb   Oct-17-03 05:32 PM   #35 
  - Well he first got involved in politics while your boy was still in school  JohnKleeb   Oct-17-03 05:34 PM   #37 
     - Seems like wild spin to me....but  Frodo   Oct-17-03 07:10 PM   #38 
     - "Gimme district"?! Where do you get that from?  diamondsoul   Oct-17-03 08:39 PM   #42 
     - Gore won that county by about 2-1  Frodo   Oct-18-03 06:09 AM   #48 
        - Uhh, Gore ran as a conservative Democrat.  diamondsoul   Oct-18-03 03:13 PM   #105 
     - Let's turn the tables, shall we?  no name no slogan   Oct-17-03 09:30 PM   #44 
     - By all means do.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 06:20 AM   #50 
     - spin?  JohnKleeb   Oct-18-03 11:37 AM   #59 
     - This is nonsense:  NNadir   Oct-17-03 08:37 PM   #41 
        - WTF?  no name no slogan   Oct-17-03 09:23 PM   #43 
        - Try these links since you're convinced he has no  diamondsoul   Oct-17-03 09:41 PM   #45 
        - Like a good Denny space case, your confusing making a speech  NNadir   Oct-18-03 07:18 AM   #52 
           - Feeling threatened, are you? You should be.  Mairead   Oct-18-03 08:17 AM   #55 
           - and you certainly show your class by calling...  Desertrose   Oct-18-03 10:54 AM   #58 
           - It's foreign policy experience  diamondsoul   Oct-18-03 02:56 PM   #104 
           - Gee, thanks for making this thread ugly  no name no slogan   Oct-18-03 11:05 PM   #110 
        - You wouldn't happen to be that rightwinger 'NaderNadir' from SC, would you  Mairead   Oct-18-03 07:09 AM   #51 
  - Care to wager on that?  Padraig18   Oct-17-03 05:33 PM   #36 
  - Early morning KICK! n/t  diamondsoul   Oct-18-03 05:32 AM   #46 
  - "A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down..."  Padraig18   Oct-18-03 05:43 AM   #47 
  - that's because 75% of people still don't know who he is  ErasureAcer   Oct-18-03 06:20 AM   #49 
  - There are a hundred million voters who stay home.  Mairead   Oct-18-03 07:27 AM   #53 
     - I think you've posted that before - and it still isn't true.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 08:09 AM   #54 
     - How cheap of you to focus on the unimportant parts of what I'm saying  Mairead   Oct-18-03 08:43 AM   #56 
        - Not cheap at all. I'll happily respond.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 10:31 AM   #57 
           - "you can download much of it"  Mairead   Oct-18-03 11:50 AM   #60 
           - I'd be glad to.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 12:03 PM   #62 
              - 1994 is a little old. I'm not even especially happy with '96  Mairead   Oct-18-03 12:17 PM   #63 
                 - If '94 isn't good... are you supposing...?  Frodo   Oct-18-03 12:47 PM   #69 
                    - No, I'm not really supposing anything...it's only that I prefer fresh data  Mairead   Oct-18-03 12:53 PM   #71 
                       - Since they do it every 2 years...  Padraig18   Oct-18-03 12:55 PM   #72 
                          - I'd prefer to see 2002, myself  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:09 PM   #79 
                          - Again. Have the number of "non-voters" changes substantially?  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:11 PM   #80 
                             - I'm not really following the point you're trying to make  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:23 PM   #85 
           - Item: healthcare  Mairead   Oct-18-03 12:28 PM   #64 
           - This one is being read wrong.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:01 PM   #74 
              - Support that, why don't you  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:06 PM   #77 
                 - You're not "reading it" at all.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:20 PM   #83 
                    - What in heaven's name are you talking about?  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:27 PM   #87 
                       - What do you call Medicare/Medicaid ?  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:30 PM   #89 
                          - "We proposed a SP system early in Clinton's term"  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:40 PM   #93 
                          - Right. And the right demonized it successfully as being MORE liberal  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:49 PM   #97 
                             - I'm going to stop responding to you because you're not making sense  Mairead   Oct-18-03 02:21 PM   #101 
                          - "we did NOT get huge percentages of people supporting Medicare/Medicaid"  Mairead   Oct-18-03 02:49 PM   #103 
           - Item: inflation or unemployment  Mairead   Oct-18-03 12:35 PM   #66 
           - This isn't a "liberal/conservative" thing.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:23 PM   #86 
              - Sorry, you're handwaving.  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:32 PM   #90 
                 - "Inflation" is not the conservative answer.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:36 PM   #91 
                    - um, do please read more carefully  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:42 PM   #94 
           - Item: housing  Mairead   Oct-18-03 12:43 PM   #67 
           - Item: capitalism itself  Mairead   Oct-18-03 12:48 PM   #70 
           - "our economic system" does not = "capitalism"  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:06 PM   #76 
              - Support that, why don't you  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:08 PM   #78 
                 - You miss the point  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:16 PM   #82 
                    - No, you're trying to put words in my mouth  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:36 PM   #92 
                       - Your first sentence is correct.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:45 PM   #95 
                          - "There is zero evdidence suggesting it is toward the left"  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:52 PM   #98 
           - Item: public ownership of electric power  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:00 PM   #73 
           - Item: public ownership of local transportation  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:04 PM   #75 
           - Item: public ownership of basic industry (steel in this case)  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:15 PM   #81 
           - Item: public ownership of banking and insurance  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:21 PM   #84 
           - I'm a banker, so I'll pick this one.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:28 PM   #88 
              - "The vast majority either support no regulation or some regulation"  Mairead   Oct-18-03 01:46 PM   #96 
                 - Again, you read into it what you want to see.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 01:54 PM   #99 
                    - No, I didn't.  Mairead   Oct-18-03 02:27 PM   #102 
           - Item: public ownership of the auto industry  Mairead   Oct-18-03 02:00 PM   #100 
           - Social Security spending  Mairead   Oct-18-03 05:59 PM   #106 
           - A reply from NORC - and evidence you are misreading the stats.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 06:54 PM   #108 
              - I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding here  Mairead   Oct-19-03 04:14 AM   #112 
                 - A very good response. Now try # 107  Frodo   Oct-19-03 05:36 AM   #115 
           - Self identified as "liberal" or "conservative" doesn't mean ANYTHING  no name no slogan   Oct-18-03 11:12 PM   #111 
              - You missed the whole discussion  Frodo   Oct-19-03 05:56 AM   #118 
              - You missed the whole discussion.  Frodo   Oct-19-03 06:00 AM   #120 
     - OK Mairead - I did some research and I'll make it simple for you.  Frodo   Oct-18-03 06:22 PM   #107 
        - Another "slam dunk" refutation  Frodo   Oct-18-03 07:01 PM   #109 
        - No, not a refutation at all.  Mairead   Oct-19-03 05:34 AM   #114 
           - But you don't get anywhere by calling people stupid  Frodo   Oct-19-03 05:38 AM   #116 
        - Now why did I feel sure you'd get around to making Chomsky's fave error?  Mairead   Oct-19-03 05:28 AM   #113 
        - Good morning. I didn't realize you were on  Frodo   Oct-19-03 05:51 AM   #117 
        - Okay, I'll respond to one more: the non-voter one  Mairead   Oct-19-03 05:56 AM   #119 
  - Dennis has low name recognition and high negatives  poskonig   Oct-18-03 12:02 PM   #61 
     - You highlight one of the big problems with America today.  dfgrbac   Oct-18-03 12:47 PM   #68 
 

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