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Kerry on Gays in the Military and on Dems who would abandon principles
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A couple of last things and then I'll end. Let me make it clear that this is also a time to stand up for the civil rights of this nation. It's time to have an Attorney General who respects, not disrespects, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. When I fought in Vietnam, I know that there were people in the military--because I know them today--and I know the medals they won, who were gay, and they fought as clearly and with as much passion and sense of patriotism as anybody else.

You go up on Capitol Hill and there is a cemetery where there is a gravestone, and on that gravestone the persons epitaph says, "The Army gave me a medal for killing a man but gave me a dishonorable discharge for loving one." I think we deserve a President of the United States who brings all Americans together and recognizes the value of the service of everyone in the United States of America.

Im proud, and I have made it clear--I think I'm the only one who hasbecause I'm not going to get caught up in the words. Some people say it's a litmus test. Some people say whatever. I am not appointing anyone to the Supreme Court of the United States who doesn't understand and respect the right of privacy and who will guarantee we will not undo Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose in America. And you can call it -- you can call it--a litmus test if you want. But I will explain to America what it really is. It's defending constitutional liberties in the United States.

And I also think we cannot afford to be a party that reads the wrong lessons from the last election. Shame on us if we believe that we have to retreat from our principles and suddenly that something like gun safety is not important in America. I come here to tell you we can't go out and win elections by throwing out our principles. I won't do it. I'm a hunter, I'm a gun owner, but I have never, ever thought of shooting with an AK-47 when I go hunting. And I will tell you I don't want to be the candidate of the N.R.A., and I don't want our candidates to be the candidates of the N.R.A. I reject that notion. We can stand up for safety in America and keep guns out of the hands of children and felons and still respect the Second Amendment of our nation.

http://johnkerry.com/news/speeches/spc_2003_1004.html
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  -Kerry on Gays in the Military and on Dems who would abandon principles DJcairo  Oct-04-03 04:36 PM   #0 
  - I'm glad that when he does bring up service it is in advocacy for gays.  blm   Oct-06-03 01:28 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-03 01:38 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, he's been lying for 20 years  sandnsea   Oct-06-03 01:46 PM   #3 
  - That is incredible!  TheDonkey   Oct-06-03 01:49 PM   #4 
  - And Dean himself has said this  UnapologeticLiberal   Oct-06-03 04:22 PM   #19 
     - UnapolLib, thank you  George_Bonanza   Oct-06-03 09:30 PM   #44 
  - Given the behavior of Kerry supporters in this regard  dsc   Oct-06-03 01:58 PM   #5 
  - incidently I think that the contrast between my post here  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:07 PM   #14 
  - I would have to agree  indigo32   Oct-06-03 04:46 PM   #23 
  - We don't have to lie, we just quote your candidate.  DJcairo   Oct-07-03 12:27 AM   #49 
  - And he's been not meaning it for 20 years.  blm   Oct-06-03 02:01 PM   #6 
  - And Howard Dean  RogueTrooper   Oct-06-03 02:04 PM   #7 
  - Maybe that record is on vinyl and Dean lost his phonograph?  Feanorcurufinwe   Oct-06-03 02:10 PM   #8 
  - Then you need to look at out in the mountains  dsc   Oct-06-03 03:52 PM   #11 
     - thanks for the link dsc  Loyal   Oct-06-03 04:43 PM   #22 
  - Not that I can see  sandnsea   Oct-06-03 02:26 PM   #9 
  - That is horsehit  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:02 PM   #12 
     - It's not horseshit  sandnsea   Oct-06-03 04:37 PM   #20 
        - Union grievences don't go before courts  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:40 PM   #21 
        - Well I didn't say that  sandnsea   Oct-06-03 05:19 PM   #27 
           - Read post 11  dsc   Oct-06-03 07:19 PM   #33 
        - You are literally unbelieveable  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:48 PM   #24 
           - And there was another case  sandnsea   Oct-06-03 05:16 PM   #26 
              - so he had nothing to do with the state  dsc   Oct-06-03 07:10 PM   #31 
                 - The Court?  sandnsea   Oct-06-03 08:24 PM   #36 
                    - The state didn't fight the adoption  dsc   Oct-06-03 08:26 PM   #37 
  - I would be interested in hearing more about that? (nt)  TheDonkey   Oct-06-03 02:27 PM   #10 
     - please see post 11  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:02 PM   #13 
        - Thanks for the clarification  TheDonkey   Oct-06-03 05:13 PM   #25 
  - Kerry was openly opposing anti gay legislation  Nicholas_J   Oct-07-03 11:39 AM   #53 
  - You meant Dean, right?  MrWiggles   Oct-06-03 08:32 PM   #40 
  - Lets look at how the Dean supports gays and signs civil union REALLY  Nicholas_J   Oct-06-03 09:27 PM   #43 
  - Paine was at best sloppy here  dsc   Oct-06-03 09:37 PM   #46 
     - Show me the money  Nicholas_J   Oct-07-03 11:33 AM   #52 
  - Lets look at how the Dean supports gays and signs civil union REALLY  Nicholas_J   Oct-06-03 09:31 PM   #45 
  - This is easily the stupidest issue to start a Kerry/Dean war on  ButterflyBlood   Oct-06-03 04:08 PM   #15 
  - Not ridiculous  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:09 PM   #16 
     - What I think is riduculous about it  ButterflyBlood   Oct-06-03 04:13 PM   #17 
        - I give Dean the edge  dsc   Oct-06-03 04:17 PM   #18 
           - Dean actually HAD to risk his seat on that issue  Nicholas_J   Oct-07-03 12:08 PM   #54 
  - Here's Kerry getting all 'weepy and liberal' on us again.  weepy_and_liberal   Oct-06-03 05:22 PM   #28 
     - Not a Kerry supporter but I give that  JohnKleeb   Oct-06-03 05:25 PM   #29 
     - That's the speech that inspired Aaron Sorkin for a West Wing  blm   Oct-06-03 05:50 PM   #30 
        - Do you have any citation for that?  dsc   Oct-06-03 07:11 PM   #32 
           - Give it a rest, dsc.  blm   Oct-06-03 08:19 PM   #34 
              - I would like one  dsc   Oct-06-03 08:21 PM   #35 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-03 08:27 PM   #38 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-03 08:31 PM   #39 
                       - You don't let me repeat what I HEARD.  blm   Oct-06-03 09:19 PM   #41 
                       - Reread post 30  dsc   Oct-06-03 09:22 PM   #42 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-03 09:55 PM   #47 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-03 09:59 PM   #48 
                       - Can You Link To One Of These Posts?  DrFunkenstein   Oct-07-03 12:36 AM   #50 
                          - They just do this to harass me.  blm   Oct-07-03 08:46 AM   #51 
 

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