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21. No. I think it's much more calculated than that. I don't think psychology
explains things any better than poltics can explain things.

Dean's support is mostly among white people. I think this anti-male discrimination metaphor for race discrimination is calculated to tap into the worst instincts of white people. He's trying to get people a little mad about the fact that men are discriminated against, and he's hoping that the pique than converts into support for him. That's easy.

It's hard to actually convince people that, if you're white, you aren't better off if you're holding your black neighbor back. It's hard to argue that we're all better off if the lowest among us is better off. That's the harder discussion about race to make.

I'm sure I'm missing something bigger, but I think that's the core of it...
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  -Message to Dean: Green Isn't the Only Color That Counts mbali  Oct-01-03 10:32 AM   #0 
  - Dean is right -- He talks bluntly about race to white people  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 10:44 AM   #1 
  - You think his little story about a pro-woman hiring bias in his office is  AP   Oct-01-03 10:56 AM   #5 
  - He was using that story as a metaphor for how blacks can be  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 11:15 AM   #9 
     - Please admit that talking about race by using a metaphor in which (white)  AP   Oct-01-03 12:44 PM   #17 
        - Has it occurred to anyone that . . .  mbali   Oct-01-03 12:52 PM   #20 
           - No. I think it's much more calculated than that. I don't think psychology  AP   Oct-01-03 01:07 PM   #21 
              - You are missing the bigger picture  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 01:31 PM   #26 
                 - So my opinoin isn't valid because you have a friend who didn't hear what..  AP   Oct-01-03 01:50 PM   #27 
  - You have the same problem  mbali   Oct-01-03 11:36 AM   #10 
  - Forgot to add  mbali   Oct-01-03 11:43 AM   #11 
     - Howard Dean made the effort to attend the Prez forum at the NAACP  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 12:05 PM   #14 
        - WHAT are you talking about?  mbali   Oct-01-03 12:45 PM   #18 
           - It's about showing respect  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 01:29 PM   #25 
              - It should be about respect shown over DECADES not months.  blm   Oct-01-03 02:07 PM   #28 
              - Thats why I also like Kerry  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:11 PM   #29 
              - I thought it was about talking to white people  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:43 PM   #37 
  - In American politics, green IS the only color that counts  DuctapeFatwa   Oct-01-03 10:46 AM   #2 
  - Thanks for the article ..I didn't know the following...  zidzi   Oct-01-03 10:47 AM   #3 
  - Dean gets a favorable quote from someone who gets their paycheck from him  AP   Oct-01-03 10:58 AM   #6 
     - I wouldn't expect you to have anything nice to contraire..  zidzi   Oct-01-03 11:02 AM   #7 
  - Dean talks about race by talking about gender discrimination against men  AP   Oct-01-03 10:51 AM   #4 
  - Dean is talking about race "now" for his campaign.  blm   Oct-01-03 11:08 AM   #8 
  - Walking the Talk  mbali   Oct-01-03 11:47 AM   #12 
  - Still waiting . . .  mbali   Oct-01-03 12:47 PM   #19 
  - Ready to receive information  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:53 PM   #46 
  - Whenever you're ready . . .  mbali   Oct-01-03 08:22 PM   #50 
     - hahah...mbali, they won't answer...  blm   Oct-01-03 09:07 PM   #51 
  - Agreed  curse10   Oct-01-03 11:57 AM   #13 
  - Why did Kerry wait until after he got publicly scolded by the NAACP chief  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 12:16 PM   #15 
     - That's not an accurate story.  blm   Oct-01-03 12:43 PM   #16 
        - There should be no confusion between pol as campaigner and record  Larkspur   Oct-01-03 01:22 PM   #22 
           - Yeah...uh huh.  blm   Oct-01-03 01:24 PM   #23 
  - Dean lies. That's why we don't like him.  genius   Oct-01-03 01:27 PM   #24 
  - Are you actually  clar   Oct-01-03 02:52 PM   #44 
     - I just found it interesting.  genius   Oct-01-03 03:03 PM   #49 
  - Talking About Race  Duder   Oct-01-03 02:27 PM   #30 
  - I strongly disagree that Clinton was the only one to talk about race  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:32 PM   #31 
  - Speaking Truth to white folks  Duder   Oct-01-03 02:41 PM   #34 
  - do you consider the death penalty racist or three strikes racist so(I do)  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:45 PM   #38 
  - text of JFK's speech on Oxford, Miss...  AP   Oct-01-03 02:42 PM   #35 
  - Bill Bradley's white, isn't he?  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:47 PM   #39 
  - let me see  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:50 PM   #41 
  - John Edwards is white, isn't he?  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:49 PM   #40 
  - yet another I see your point 100%  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:52 PM   #43 
     - Yep, LBJ was white, too  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:58 PM   #47 
        - Those are LBJ's words? good  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 03:00 PM   #48 
  - Ted Kennedy's white, isn't he?  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:51 PM   #42 
     - his brother was white too (this is by Bob Kennedy)  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:53 PM   #45 
  - I still don't get it.  AP   Oct-01-03 02:39 PM   #32 
  - This is a good statement  mbali   Oct-01-03 02:40 PM   #33 
     - That would be simliar to my point  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 02:42 PM   #36 
  - Please, can someone tell me the point of this article other than  stickdog   Oct-01-03 10:50 PM   #52 
     - I didnt bash Dean, if its true he said he was the only candiate to talk  JohnKleeb   Oct-01-03 10:56 PM   #53 

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