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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. Is there a point of yours you are saying I'm ignoring? Let's hear it.
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  -Dean cribs a page from the G.W. Bush playbook Feanorcurufinwe  Sep-26-03 02:46 PM   #0 
  - Wow, a compliment for Dean? Have you lost your way?  EagleEye   Sep-26-03 02:54 PM   #1 
  - So when Dean said Gephardt's charge regarding the $270 billion cut  Karmadillo   Sep-26-03 02:55 PM   #2 
  - Perhaps this will help...  Duder   Sep-26-03 02:58 PM   #3 
  - Thanks for this link!  deutsey   Sep-26-03 03:22 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for the link. I don't think the article justifies Dean's assertion  Karmadillo   Sep-27-03 12:02 AM   #83 
  - He must've meant he was lying in the Stephanopoulos interview  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 03:01 PM   #4 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-26-03 05:43 PM   #39 
  - Hell, I'm leaning Clark, but I feel like I have to defend Dean here.  boxster   Sep-26-03 03:07 PM   #5 
  - The point is he isn't being 'compared' to Gingrich -  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 03:18 PM   #7 
  - He pointed out the fact that Gingrich was implying  indigo32   Sep-26-03 03:32 PM   #11 
  - "Cutting the medicare growth rate isn't exactly Anti-Medicare."?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 03:45 PM   #13 
     - No it isn't  indigo32   Sep-26-03 04:38 PM   #25 
        - Less money for Medicare, but it's not a cut.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 04:50 PM   #28 
           - Cute  indigo32   Sep-26-03 05:00 PM   #29 
              - Just look back in the thread.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:24 PM   #31 
                 - in post 11  indigo32   Sep-26-03 05:36 PM   #35 
                    - As far as putting words in someone's mouth  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:50 PM   #44 
                       - And I maintain that  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:00 PM   #48 
                          - He did agree with Gingrich, he did borrow a tactic from Bush  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:03 PM   #51 
                             - like I said before  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:08 PM   #53 
                                - His intent was to inform the electorate about the real Howard Dean.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:14 PM   #55 
                                   - Whew  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:19 PM   #58 
                                      - Once again, the argument is that repeating Dean's own words is a smear.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:26 PM   #60 
                                      - No, the arguement is  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:28 PM   #61 
                                         - Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make repeating them a smear  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:32 PM   #62 
                                      - You do have to admit  kplongco   Sep-27-03 07:02 PM   #93 
                                         - On whose back will Dean do his balancing act?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-27-03 07:17 PM   #94 
  - I have to respectfully disagree.  boxster   Sep-26-03 04:00 PM   #17 
     - Straw man alert!  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 04:32 PM   #22 
        - Heh  indigo32   Sep-26-03 05:42 PM   #37 
        - Yes  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:56 PM   #46 
           - non sequiture  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:00 PM   #49 
              - You'll have to elaborate if you want to get your point accross.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:11 PM   #54 
                 - Well considering  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:17 PM   #56 
                    - Read the transcript. Gephardt pointed out Dean's policy position  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:22 PM   #59 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-26-03 05:43 PM   #40 
        - You're missing my point.  boxster   Sep-26-03 05:45 PM   #42 
           - Your argument seems to be  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:59 PM   #47 
              - Read my post again  boxster   Sep-26-03 06:44 PM   #63 
                 - Gephardt pointed out that Dean and Gingrich agreed on this issue.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 08:17 PM   #67 
                 - But he didn't!  Mairead   Sep-27-03 04:19 PM   #88 
  - You're aren't going to believe it, but I'm going to defend Dean, too  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 08:47 PM   #70 
  - This is bullshit  wtmusic   Sep-26-03 03:17 PM   #6 
  - Did you flunk elementary school math?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 03:21 PM   #8 
     - LOL yourself, I don't need lessons from you  wtmusic   Sep-26-03 03:22 PM   #10 
     - Except the 270 billion was not a one-year figure  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 03:37 PM   #12 
        - Just couldn't put a finger on it, huh?  wtmusic   Sep-26-03 03:46 PM   #14 
        - Dean backed Gingrich's plan in 1995  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 03:50 PM   #15 
           - I like how Liberal Oasis sums it up:  deutsey   Sep-26-03 03:59 PM   #16 
           - Dean on health care and social security  w4rma   Sep-26-03 04:10 PM   #19 
           - Instead of just posting a conclusion,  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 04:12 PM   #20 
              - Why don't you take a moment and read the article  indigo32   Sep-26-03 04:32 PM   #23 
              - Are unable to make the case?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 04:37 PM   #24 
                 - LOL  indigo32   Sep-26-03 04:40 PM   #26 
                    - Laugh if you want.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 04:48 PM   #27 
                       - Look  indigo32   Sep-26-03 05:02 PM   #30 
                          - Dean used the exact same tactic as Bush  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:26 PM   #32 
                             - And how would you describe  indigo32   Sep-26-03 05:30 PM   #33 
                                - Quoting Dean.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:34 PM   #34 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-26-03 05:45 PM   #41 
              - I've got better things to do  deutsey   Sep-26-03 08:14 PM   #66 
                 - I have read the article in its entirety.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 08:52 PM   #72 
                    - Do you intend to sway minds with your selective reading?  deutsey   Sep-26-03 08:58 PM   #73 
                       - There is nothing to debate.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 09:02 PM   #75 
                          - Again, here is the conclusion of the liberalaosis.com piece  deutsey   Sep-26-03 09:05 PM   #76 
                             - Dean supported the 7 year, $270 billion cut to Medicare that Gingrich  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 09:14 PM   #77 
                                - Good night!  deutsey   Sep-26-03 09:16 PM   #78 
                                   - Good night.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 09:26 PM   #79 
                                      - G'night  deutsey   Sep-26-03 09:27 PM   #80 
           - The plan called for cuts of $270 billion  wtmusic   Sep-26-03 04:08 PM   #18 
              - Medicare ends up with less money, yet somehow, it's not a 'cut'  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 04:18 PM   #21 
              - read what he said  kplongco   Sep-27-03 07:28 PM   #95 
        - That was a cut in the growth rate, not the program itself  poskonig   Sep-26-03 05:37 PM   #36 
           - Don't argue with the broken record...  AWD   Sep-26-03 05:46 PM   #43 
           - Yes, when they ignore your points as if they don't exist.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:01 PM   #50 
              - Yes, when they ignore your points as if they don't exist  indigo32   Sep-26-03 06:05 PM   #52 
                 - Is there a point of yours you are saying I'm ignoring? Let's hear it.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 06:17 PM   #57 
           - If Medicare ends up with less money, how is that not a cut?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 05:54 PM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-26-03 05:42 PM   #38 
  - The Iraq War is page 1 of the G.W. Bush playbook.  stickdog   Sep-26-03 07:32 PM   #64 
  - I guess what you are saying is, you can't refute the points made here  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 08:05 PM   #65 
     - What exactly was your point other than Bush once said something  stickdog   Sep-26-03 08:42 PM   #68 
        - My point is, Dean lied when he said "That is flat-out false"  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 09:00 PM   #74 
           - Gephardt lied through his teeth to make his duplicitous attack.  stickdog   Sep-26-03 09:44 PM   #81 
              - Let's examine it.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-26-03 10:01 PM   #82 
              - No lie: you just don't like the message  DemDogs   Sep-27-03 04:18 PM   #87 
                 - well said...  blm   Sep-27-03 05:55 PM   #90 
  - My head just exploded  Padraig18   Sep-26-03 08:43 PM   #69 
  - And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too  deutsey   Sep-26-03 08:48 PM   #71 
  - Who doesn't?  loyalsister   Sep-27-03 12:27 PM   #84 
  - What's deceptive about it?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-27-03 03:12 PM   #85 
     - Back to the debate  loyalsister   Sep-27-03 04:10 PM   #86 
        - We've fleshed out the details, and they back Gephardt up.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-27-03 05:33 PM   #89 
           - The real straw man  loyalsister   Sep-27-03 06:16 PM   #91 
              - I beg to differ. Who's right and who's wrong do matter.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-27-03 06:37 PM   #92 
                 - lol  loyalsister   Sep-27-03 07:35 PM   #96 
  - How dare you compare Dean to George Bush!  Cocoa   Sep-27-03 10:03 PM   #97 
 

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